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Old 10-23-2007, 03:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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now, is it just me, or does it look like the body is sleeved with a piece of piping?

looks to me as if the mounting point for the lever action (the vertical metal bits) is actually cut and folded down from the body.
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I was thinking that at first, but it looks more to me like the metal bracket is just screwed into the PVC. looks like quarter inch thick pvc.

edit: so the way im seeing this is that he took the sear slot and lengthened it, then rotated the bolt so the cocking arm bolt hole is downward. then put a PVC casing around it with metal bracket attached. I would assume it's sheet metal rather than tin.

edit 2: it looks to me like the screw holding the back of the bracket goes straight through the PVC and is the bolt hole that runs through the rear ASA. Someone correct me if i'm wrong here. The ASA appears to still be angled downward so the orientation of the main body cannot have changed, unless he drilled and tapped new holes for the screw and turned the ASA 90 degrees in the body.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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yeah, but turning the body creates a new host of problems when it comes to mounting anything.

i'd put money on the fact that the body was sleeved and that feedneck was chopped.

I'd really like to know how the top ASA and bucket changer were mounted, there's alot of torque applied when you change out a 12ie.


i'd probably run something like this off of a remote myself, however this looks like a mondo-neat way of doing this.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:26 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I would definitely have to say I agree, chopped feed neck it is.

Man, I'm gonna need to buy a different Trracer, this one is way too nice to hack a feed neck off of.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I like the creativeness. I have great respect for anyone willing to try to do something for themselves.

If I was to try and duplicate of emulate this I think to simplify the problem of linkages and feed holes I'd just start with a Phantom. They are already single hole undercocking bolts. The whole turning the body and knocking off the feedneck would be moot.

As for the CO2 changer and ASA that is a pretty neat setup and it would seem to me real easy to use.

Again I love the creativeness and the end appearance is pretty impressive for a handmade prototype. Well done!
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:58 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm sort of thinking that a chunk of Merlin extrusion and then bore out the upper bore and plug mid way for tube magazine coming out the front and 12'y QC up from the rear with a threaded buckt or perhaps lever load it from a side facing slot. Nelson guts in the lower section with some form of bottom pull using a Phantom or Tagmaster style bolt. And since it's got that much metal to work with use something like cocker threading for the barrel. The feed neck connection would likely be drilled up from below and a cap added that incorporates a ball detent. Clothe it all in a nice wooden stock similar to this setup and like would be grand.

Now if we could get a supply of brass tubing to allow doing this all in brass life would be ecstatic! ! ! !
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:41 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I am glad everyone has enjoyed it so far.. Its funny to see you guys dissect the design..

The body is sleeved. Its a 1" piece of SCH40 PVC about 7 3/8th long. this joins the valve and body the same as the grip frame once the whole assembly is together. The body has not been turned. This did require that the feed neck to be cut and a new one drilled (How I would have killed for a drill press).. I had to make bolt lock slot longer and wider in order to turn the bold and use the same hole..

The trigger and cocking assembly is a piece of 1" L aluminum shaped to fit as needed. It is held into place by a single screw into the valve.. As far as to how did I know where to place all the working parts.. No you cant see my drawing, cause there are none.. I literally said.. This goes here and this goes here and this should look like this.. With all that I only had to move the cocking lever once..

Yes a Phantom would have been easer. So would a drill press and a lathe.... mill oh a mill...........but I used what I had on hand. The project cost me right around $100. This included the Trracer..
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Hmmm...would it be cheaper if several of us went in it together(several markers)....more money for the smith? just a thought....
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I don't have the tools or knowledge to do this myself, but I'd be willing to send someone a couple of bucks to do this to my trracer.
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..... Its funny to see you guys dissect the design....
That's 'cause you didn't FEED US ANYTHING! ! ! ! So we can't do anything else but study it and make up wild ***'ed guesses....
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