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Old 04-03-2014, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Considering Mech Conversion on NXT Shocker

I am considering selling my SL8R and having someone do a mechanical conversion to my NXT Shocker. Does anyone know a good person to contact about having this done?

It is similar to the Ion mech conversion in theory and will (basically) involve putting a 3 way valve behind the trigger, milling the rail out, and threading autococker sized barbs into the body where the solenoid would route air to push the bolt back and forth.

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I just wanted to add that I would be willing to try it myself, but I don't know what 3way could be used that will handle the 200psi output of the shocker reg (autococker 3ways won't, etc).
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You Can Use The Clippard SMAV3 . I use the Sub-Micro Valves - Pneumadyne. I found them to be a better valve.
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It says those have an operating pressure of 50-125psi. Do you think they will work up to the 200psi that the shocker puts out? If not, I could put an lpr in the grip, but would like to avoid that if possible.
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I run them on my pump ions. And they have held up so far.
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Right on, thanks. Now to choose which frame to mod...a slider frame would be pretty rad.
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That would be cool. You could just use the stock frame, but that would not be as much fun to build.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Bah, that place only ships to the US...
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You need a 4-way, not a 3-way. As Shockers are a perfectly balanced spool, you can't even use constant air as an air spring and cheat with a 3-way. Needs shifting air to each side of the spool.

I've actually had significantly worse performance with the pneumadyne 3-way in mechanical ion conversions than the SMAV-3, but I could have gotten a few lemons. They claim higher flow on paper, but making no changes other than the valve I get a significant velocity drop with the pneumadyne.

I wouldn't tap the body for barbs, I would make a manifold that is tapped for barbs that way you can readily convert the gun back to electro if desired, and you don't risk destroying the body as they have a reputation for developing stripped holes over time as is from the grade of aluminum used.

You may be best off with one of the cocker 4-ways that can handle full pressure. I haven't found an overly desirable mechanical 4-way that is rated for that kind of pressure.
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Thanks Y0da. Do you have a recommendation on which 4way to use (which cocker ones won't leak from the pressure)? I will also have to figure out how to plumb it in now. I assume the 4th barb (middle) on the 4way would just vent into the atmosphere, right?
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