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Old 04-22-2008, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Question to cRAP4 Shotgun Owners

After looking at Russc's guide to turn it into a decent gun and playing a whole bunch of COD4, I'm now kicking around the idea of picking one of these up. However, I want to make it into a more tactical version-namely, fitting it with a folding combat stock. However, since the original one carries the CO2 in the stock, I'd need to re-route that.

So, my question is: How many shots would that thing get off a 12-gram (It's Nelson-based, so I assume it'd be able to empty a full mag off a 12-gram), and is there enough space in either the gripframe or the receivers to hide a dropout charger? I was thinking mounting a dropout in the gripframe, plugging the existing ASA and running a line up into it from the grip (Either hardline on the outside, or, space allowing, macro through the body)
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You'll have to get a different, wider grip for it. Also, the mounting point for the grip is based on the AR mount, but is almost double the width. Any grip you pick up must be modified unless you modify the gun. I didn't take the chance on shaving down the cast aluminum, I assume that it's thick for a reason, and so I just hollowed out a Lonestar a bit.

It's certainly possible with some work and I've thrown the same idea around.

As for 12 grams, it's a nelson and as such is decently efficient. I've had a shot count of around 30 before devolumizing the valve.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'd probably hack up the grip to fit it to the mount. What about the existing grip, would it be wide enough to fit a dropout charger?
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Not without compromising the strength of the piece.
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Old 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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mp, if you go through with this, i'd be interested in the remains of the old stock...for my at-85...does it use the standard lonestar-style handle? if so, gives a lot of options...were you looking to go external for the plumbing to the grip?
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It depends on if I could run air through the body. Don't make any plans, though, I don't even have a gun yet (And it's way down there on my to-do list), I'm just brainstorming right now.
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