What metal do I get?

bdotma · 06-06-2008, 02:09 AM

Hi,

I'm a new guy but I've been reading this forum for a while. I want to design a grip frame for the phantom but I'm not sure what type of metal/material to get. Any recommendations? Could I buy it on McMaster-Carr?

And a side question...how does the sound of a flatline-barrel on a pump gun strike you? Of course you can put an Apex but that wouldn't be fun to build

. Please don't flame, I just couldn't help but wondering.

Thanks.

CamoDeafie · 06-06-2008, 02:12 AM

high grade aluminum is best bet. of course, you could try brass..

but really i think high grade aluminum would be good enough for a trigger frame, and certainly better quality than cast potmetal. the phantom trigger is already made of aluminum, youre talking of a grip block?

bdotma · 06-06-2008, 02:19 AM

Thanks. I meant the frame assembly (block that grip attaches onto with the trigger) + grip (includes handle bar, etc.) ... for that matter. Of course the phantom manual gives each single part a different name but people have made it as one unit.

BigOldSkool · 06-06-2008, 02:30 AM

Ive been using 6061... FYI you can get 8"x8" square stock in lots of thicknesses for not to expensive from McMaster Car and unless you go wacky.. you can get two grip frames from it.

O'Lane · 06-06-2008, 11:38 AM

6061 is the general standard with aluminum, it's very versitile, easy to machine, accepts annodizing well, etc. It's what I use with my work. McMaster is alittle expensive, if you just search the internet for small quanity metal dealers you'll get plenty of hits that'll be cheaper than McMaster. You could also try ebay, I use it all the time.

Mayvik · 06-06-2008, 12:46 PM

A tip I learned doing projects in college, try to find a scrap yard near you. Sometimes they'll have random off-sized blocks of stock that might be big enough for you to pattern your part in (especially if you don't care about grain direction). Might be slim pickin's now with the price of metals so high, but never hurts to look if there's one near by.

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jhyan · 06-06-2008, 12:55 PM

6061-t6 from onlinemetals.com

Rainman229 · 06-06-2008, 02:45 PM

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alpha434 · 06-06-2008, 06:29 PM

Better go with PCX or PCC grade graphite.

Lighter than aluminum. Plus it's naturally black. Polishes up nicely.

HurtCow · 06-06-2008, 06:34 PM

Flatline on a pump gun- I've seen Flatline-equipped WGP Snipers. The challenge would be that Flatlines tend to be somewhat inaccurate- the ball goes way out there, then tends to arc left or right.

06-06-2008, 02:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
bdotma Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7	What metal do I get? Hi, I'm a new guy but I've been reading this forum for a while. I want to design a grip frame for the phantom but I'm not sure what type of metal/material to get. Any recommendations? Could I buy it on McMaster-Carr? And a side question...how does the sound of a flatline-barrel on a pump gun strike you? Of course you can put an Apex but that wouldn't be fun to build . Please don't flame, I just couldn't help but wondering. Thanks.

06-06-2008, 02:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
CamoDeafie nelson fanboy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Monmouth, Oregon Posts: 1,328	high grade aluminum is best bet. of course, you could try brass.. but really i think high grade aluminum would be good enough for a trigger frame, and certainly better quality than cast potmetal. the phantom trigger is already made of aluminum, youre talking of a grip block? __________________ nothing like the heft of steel nelspots

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BigOldSkool MCB Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deer Park, NY Posts: 1,727	Ive been using 6061... FYI you can get 8"x8" square stock in lots of thicknesses for not to expensive from McMaster Car and unless you go wacky.. you can get two grip frames from it. __________________ RIP - Ed "BigDaddy" Roth and "Indian" Larry "Reading APG does not make you an airtech" http://www.myspace.com/eastcoastanarchypaintball

06-06-2008, 11:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
O'Lane Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 165	6061 is the general standard with aluminum, it's very versitile, easy to machine, accepts annodizing well, etc. It's what I use with my work. McMaster is alittle expensive, if you just search the internet for small quanity metal dealers you'll get plenty of hits that'll be cheaper than McMaster. You could also try ebay, I use it all the time. __________________ "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing" God Bless America

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Mayvik MCB Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 2,108	A tip I learned doing projects in college, try to find a scrap yard near you. Sometimes they'll have random off-sized blocks of stock that might be big enough for you to pattern your part in (especially if you don't care about grain direction). Might be slim pickin's now with the price of metals so high, but never hurts to look if there's one near by. (I'm waiting for someone to post the obligatory Slim Pickens riding the nuke picture....) __________________ <skiddish9999> their was actually this slutty girl I knew <skiddish9999> guy took is electro and put it inbetween her legs when she wasn't looking <skiddish9999> and just started ramping <Mayvik> I hope it wasn't a smart parts gun <Nelson> Probably works as well as their "Magic Box" Factory F/A FS SMG-60 w/Paint FS 68 Carbine FS Piranha FS Pro-Lite/Carb Accessories FS Misc Stuff FS My Feedback

06-06-2008, 02:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
bdotma Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7	Thanks. I meant the frame assembly (block that grip attaches onto with the trigger) + grip (includes handle bar, etc.) ... for that matter. Of course the phantom manual gives each single part a different name but people have made it as one unit.

06-06-2008, 12:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
jhyan MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 924	6061-t6 from onlinemetals.com

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alpha434 Rec Poster Join Date: May 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 76	Better go with PCX or PCC grade graphite. Lighter than aluminum. Plus it's naturally black. Polishes up nicely. __________________ Clubbing baby seals.

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