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Old 06-09-2008, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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CCI phantom custom question

Alright, this may not be n the right place (kind of) but the last thread I made got quite a bit of traffic. So here goes.

I'm not emailing Master Cassidy to bother him with my trivial problems until I transfer my money into his pocket , his time is too precious with the service he provides.

Will Master Cassidy preform the following operations:

Drilling for a timmy detent (linky:timmy nub detent for phantom)

Cutting some slots in the metal feedtube and feedblock.

And this anno which I love (I heard it came from CCI but can't be confirmed, I'll be getting either a red sponge, black/white/gray or use that scheme)
Pump Gun Picture thread (8th post down).

Few questions:

The phantom rebuild kit, I'm thinking about buying about 5 kits. Is this necessary? There are those cup seals included and the plastic feed cap (the things with 3 prongs that stops paintball rolling out of the feedtube), do they wear out fast?

With the stock over-barrel cocking kit (micro version), will my anno be damaged/scratched (on the barrel) reason I'm asking is I plan to sit at home at cock it about 10,000 times. Will it be unsafe if I take off the barrel and cock it (the pump arm/guide will bend/warp)? I feel like buying a another barrel (bored for inserts) and use that while I cock the phantom at home.

When 'cocking' the phantom at home I don't need C02 right? Just sit and watch a movie and repeatedly cycle (pump back, pump forward) it? Thats it?

Should I get a T-stock (I know its preference)? I'm was going to run a Hawaiian setup to make is ultra small but should I get a T-stock for stability (I'm using an A-5 with stock now). Thats means I'll run a VSC setup. I'm 15 so the stock would be fully 'collapsed' all of the time. I'm thinking about just seeing if I need it but since I live in Malaysia I'd rather get it now since shipping is anywhere from $12-20 and takes weeks to months to get here (customs).

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow... okay here goes.

No he will probably not do anymetal work to your gun that is not stock... ie he will not drill for a detent and he will not mill slots larger than what's there already.

You will have to ask The Man about ano patterns... I have no idea if he will do that.

Cupseals last a long time.. you will only need a couple in a lifetime. Those ball holders in the stock class feed... you can buy those individualy. No need to buy the 5 of the whole kit unless you lose screws constantly.

Ano and pump wear.... the ano will eventually wear, but if you clean the inside of the pump after each use (don't oil the inside of the pump itself as the delron will swell) your ano should last a long time... if you get dirt in there it will wear quicker.

Sitting and pumping the gun 10,000 times... WHY? Are you ADD or do you OCD? It's not going to help one bit.

Also if you want the sear to catch you will need the gun aired up.... the only other way the sear will catch is if you have a very stiff valve spring in there.

If you try to cock the gun with out the barrel on there is a very good chance you will damge the pump rod and frame... leave the barrel on.

The stock is totaly up to you... I always put one on a gun and then end up removing it halfway through a game the first time I use a gun.

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with just about everything Schmitti Said above.
I do happen to like a stock of some kind (I use a T stock) on phantoms.
10,000 pumps is overkill if your doing it to try and break in the pump, playing with the gun is a much more fun way of breaking it in.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Also... if this is your first pump gun I do not recommend doing any work on the guts (bolt, hammer, sear and valve) just add some oil, gas it up and play.

Maintain the gun, clean it after every game and it will last you a long time.

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Old 06-09-2008, 10:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, the detend mod really isn't needed. I've never had a(n) (accidental) double feed on mine...

Detend rings on the other hand can be very handy, I'd almost say they're needed.

As for a rebuild kit, you really don't need one. The gun comes with a couple of spare o-rings, and I've only ever had to replace the puncture seal in the 12g changer because I got some dirt in there.

In the 2 years I have had mine, I've had to replace the clear acrylic parts once. But I did get my gun used, so they weren't new any more.

The ano on the barrel does wear off, and I don't think there's much you can do about it. It happens with all wrap-around pumps.
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The ano on the barrel does wear off, and I don't think there's much you can do about it. It happens with all wrap-around pumps.
Not always the case if you keep it clean. A friend of mine has been exclusively using his OC Phantom for over 10 years with no sign of wear.
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And if you are really afraid of barrel wear, you can always sand a little bit more material out of the inside of the pump... don't go nuts.. and make sure to keep it smooth. If it's rough you are just going to have areas for dirt to catch which will then scratch the finish.

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But I'm afraid I'll loose those detent rings. I mean do that mod and your set for months and you can buy them in 5 packs.

I read that phantom's pump stroke gets smoother over time. So over the holidays with nothing to do and no field (new one is being built) I though it would be a good idea.

Maybe, I'll just buy the phantom off the Odells and get them to do the custom work/anno. Can they do that kind of anno? I think I'm going to buy it with no T-stock.

So far I have got these choices in anno:

That sponge anno with those colours.

That sponge anno with various shades of whites, grays and black.

Not sure what its called but gruntbull.com does it (Linky:http://gruntbull.com/images/h07/DSC03239.JPG). Same colours.

'Gruntbull style' white on black.

'Gruntbull style' orange on red.


Decisions decisions. I'm not sure whether the 'gruntbull style' is suited to 'narrow-bodied' markers (that pm is quite tall so it looks spread out and some-what even). But its not as 'busy' as the sponge which is nice.


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Old 06-10-2008, 08:51 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Only the actual anodizer can tell you if they can do something.... if you want to know, call or write them... if it's a crazy multi color splash/drizzle/sponge get ready to be floored by the cost. The more colors and the more effort, the more it will cost.

The pump stroke isn't going to change all that much that you are going to notice it. Hell 10,000 pump strokes is more than most people have put on there that have owned them for a while. You get to that point and you have replaced springs, multiple times.

Detent rings.... keep a ziplock in you tool kit and everytime you use one you put it back when done.

The reason why the rings will work and the detent nub will not is that when you pump the gun and load a ball it goes right into the base of the barrel. There is no place for a nubbin unless you just want it for double feeding and even then you could by about 10 ring kits for what it's going to cost you to get the nubbin installed and the ring kit is going to work better.

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If you really do not want to deal with rings and still want to prevent rollouts, get O'Dells to bore out the stock barrel for inserts. It will cost a bit to get the kit if you don't already, but it works like a dream.

And I agree on the pumping. It is a waste of time, just play with your gun.
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