Has anyone made aluminum 3357 cylinders before?

infamoussmiley · 07-01-2008, 04:31 PM

Hi,
I know that agent smith posted about this - Aluminum 3357 Cylinders - and I've been prepping to do the same for the past 18 months. Has anyone made aluminum 3357 cylinders before? How well did they work? Did ball breakage reduce. Tips on how to improve?

smiley

kidneythief · 07-01-2008, 05:21 PM

Oh whoops I didnt see that thread...

Im sure its feasable. I would need a working 3357 to pattern the cylinders from. Any takers?

-Jake

infamoussmiley · 07-01-2008, 05:24 PM

i'm game. what do you need?

smiley

Surge-NS · 07-01-2008, 05:24 PM

3357 fs/t

If buying, a free up for another Mcarter seller.

kidneythief · 07-01-2008, 06:15 PM

Id need to borrow an entire working gun so tnat I can do all the modeling and testing. I can PM you my address.

-Jake

RealtorTommy · 07-01-2008, 06:28 PM

I've wondered why a smith hasn't design and build copies in .68.........

kidneythief · 07-01-2008, 06:56 PM

It has been or is being worked by several

-Jake

Penguin · 07-02-2008, 02:46 AM

IIRC the problem with boring or forcing the 3357 to accept 68 caliber paintballs is many pieces would need to be scaled up and remade. There's also to issue with valve volume- there wouldn't be enough volume to get a proper velocity out of the stock components.

It would certainly be possible to remake a 3357 in 68 caliber but the key word is remake
Penguin

agentSmith · 07-02-2008, 07:54 AM

A 68 would have to be rebuilt Hellboy big, but what the hey I'd wear a red suit!

Smiley asked me if I had a pic of my old ones but they are truly gone, the last one was lost in a game several years ago(I never was one to hoard my old stuff, I've since learned better from my friends here at MCB

)

As I said in the other thread the only thing that was super tricky that the guy who made them for me did, was the detent rings, which were a slightly oversized broken loop of round spring wire. You squeezed the wire loop smaller, pushed it into the cylinder then it reached an oring channel dug just inside each chamber and snapped in, holding itself. The ring ends touched when in the channel, as he had filed a tiny bit at a time until they were the right length.
I'm sure there are other methods that would work, but those were fine.
In addition in talking to my friend who got them from me, I remembered that after ordering a few of them over 5 or 6 years(I played 30-40 days a year with those babies), I also had the pawl that pushed the cylinder around remade of steel. This wasn't really necessary but man did that piece last forever.

Rob

infamoussmiley · 07-02-2008, 01:50 PM

no, no, not .68 caliber

....50 caliber aluminum cylinders is what I was asking about and is the kind I would like to have made.

Jake, Please PM me your addy.
Also, I thinking of having the pawl made in metal too since the plastic one can also round off and malfunction.

Smiley

07-01-2008, 04:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
infamoussmiley Active Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 488	Has anyone made aluminum 3357 cylinders before? Hi, I know that agent smith posted about this - Aluminum 3357 Cylinders - and I've been prepping to do the same for the past 18 months. Has anyone made aluminum 3357 cylinders before? How well did they work? Did ball breakage reduce. Tips on how to improve? smiley

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kidneythief Lord humungus the Mod Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Finally!!! Posts: 2,292	Oh whoops I didnt see that thread... Im sure its feasable. I would need a working 3357 to pattern the cylinders from. Any takers? -Jake __________________ "I wish simply to be a decent person, yet I will always fear the retards" -Brian Hindt(geech) "Every man knows he is, basically, a complete sissy compared to Johnny Cash." - Bono LPPC member #24 MCB Moderator Machinist for hire Kidney Machine

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infamoussmiley Active Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 488	i have one i'm game. what do you need? smiley

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kidneythief Lord humungus the Mod Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Finally!!! Posts: 2,292	Id need to borrow an entire working gun so tnat I can do all the modeling and testing. I can PM you my address. -Jake __________________ "I wish simply to be a decent person, yet I will always fear the retards" -Brian Hindt(geech) "Every man knows he is, basically, a complete sissy compared to Johnny Cash." - Bono LPPC member #24 MCB Moderator Machinist for hire Kidney Machine

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kidneythief Lord humungus the Mod Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Finally!!! Posts: 2,292	It has been or is being worked by several -Jake __________________ "I wish simply to be a decent person, yet I will always fear the retards" -Brian Hindt(geech) "Every man knows he is, basically, a complete sissy compared to Johnny Cash." - Bono LPPC member #24 MCB Moderator Machinist for hire Kidney Machine

07-02-2008, 07:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
agentSmith Old Navy? No, Old Army! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 899	A 68 would have to be rebuilt Hellboy big, but what the hey I'd wear a red suit! Smiley asked me if I had a pic of my old ones but they are truly gone, the last one was lost in a game several years ago(I never was one to hoard my old stuff, I've since learned better from my friends here at MCB ) As I said in the other thread the only thing that was super tricky that the guy who made them for me did, was the detent rings, which were a slightly oversized broken loop of round spring wire. You squeezed the wire loop smaller, pushed it into the cylinder then it reached an oring channel dug just inside each chamber and snapped in, holding itself. The ring ends touched when in the channel, as he had filed a tiny bit at a time until they were the right length. I'm sure there are other methods that would work, but those were fine. In addition in talking to my friend who got them from me, I remembered that after ordering a few of them over 5 or 6 years(I played 30-40 days a year with those babies), I also had the pawl that pushed the cylinder around remade of steel. This wasn't really necessary but man did that piece last forever. Rob __________________ "Why did you shoot him in the back!?!?!?" "Well... His back was to me."

07-02-2008, 01:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
infamoussmiley Active Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 488	no, no, not .68 caliber....50 caliber aluminum cylinders is what I was asking about and is the kind I would like to have made. Jake, Please PM me your addy. Also, I thinking of having the pawl made in metal too since the plastic one can also round off and malfunction. Smiley

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