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Old 11-29-2008, 10:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I just bought my phantom today. But I've been brainstorming the idea of turning the phantom into mechanical semi-auto, and even mechanical full auto for two years. That's two years of headaches. Many pump-to-semi conversions reveal that nelson mechanics lead to double-pops. Other problems include: converting the trigger to activate air cylinders, placing cocker style pnuematics, and power tube breaking (I say just lathe a powertube out of stronger metal!?)...


My suggestion is to completely remove the hammer and sear mechanics, and repalce the mechanism that forces the powerbolt back...so let your imagination run wild on this one. I suppose tons of other pneumatics would be involed in this, and some cutting and slotting of the body and frame..



Sure the Phantom then is not considered a nelson pump by nature, but it'll still be in a Phantom body! FYI, I enjoy the headaches and I don't like electronics on paintball markers.

So to mount your stuff, maybe slot the body and mount it on the side of the feed body. Also, I think it'll be hard to mount a 2way ram onto the pump arm because it will not clear the barrel.

Good luck and keep us updated on your progress.

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Old 11-30-2008, 02:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I just bought my phantom today. But I've been brainstorming the idea of turning the phantom into mechanical semi-auto, and even mechanical full auto for two years. That's two years of headaches. Many pump-to-semi conversions reveal that nelson mechanics lead to double-pops. Other problems include: converting the trigger to activate air cylinders, placing cocker style pnuematics, and power tube breaking (I say just lathe a powertube out of stronger metal!?)...


My suggestion is to completely remove the hammer and sear mechanics, and repalce the mechanism that forces the powerbolt back...so let your imagination run wild on this one. I suppose tons of other pneumatics would be involed in this, and some cutting and slotting of the body and frame..



Sure the Phantom then is not considered a nelson pump by nature, but it'll still be in a Phantom body! FYI, I enjoy the headaches and I don't like electronics on paintball markers.

So to mount your stuff, maybe slot the body and mount it on the side of the feed body. Also, I think it'll be hard to mount a 2way ram onto the pump arm because it will not clear the barrel.

Good luck and keep us updated on your progress.

After reading your post i came to see a crazy idea in my head. I'll get back to you all once it's down on paper.


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We'll put it down on paper. would it work? yes. would it still be a phantom? not really
Basiclly my idea makes a half assed spool valve setup. Combines the way a mag works and ion.
Would be cool to make.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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oh, i also have the drawings of MQ nelson valve somewhere, i came up with it a while ago when i was injured.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Cornstar built one here in Utah. it worked ok. Broke a lot of power tubes.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah, i local store owner had one and said that was a main problem with it
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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this sounds like alot of fun!!!

i swear i read somewhere that cci had made a semiauto like 10 years ago.....
but only made 2 actual markers and gave up....

but ya i wanna see what you guys are capable of!!!
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Theres pic in my links

But, CCI did prototype 1 semi marker called the Phatom Revolution(i think), used a wheelchair motor to cock it i think
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i remember seeing a pic of a purple Phantom converted to semi years ago. i think Doc built it. it was sweet.
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Brad Nestle made a semi one that had a cocker frame and a front block, it was also annoed red.

It was on his sight for a while but when he went underground his shuttered that sight and I never saved the pics.
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Brad Nestle made a semi one that had a cocker frame and a front block, it was also annoed red.

It was on his sight for a while but when he went underground his shuttered that sight and I never saved the pics.
I was just going to mention that. I haven't heard if it was just a bolt together mock up, or an actual functional piece. Either way, it looked quite nice.

I used to have a picture of it, but can't seem to find it anymore.
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