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Old 01-24-2010, 05:24 PM   #461 (permalink)
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I have a team-mate who was looking to pick two of these up, the only downside is that he is in Canada. I`m just on the hunt of finding someone trustworthy in the North-eastern US to do 3rd party shipping with. These seem like a great deal though!
I am not in the northeast, but dont care to help. pm me if you want me to do 3rd party. Free of course
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:32 PM   #462 (permalink)
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Well, a tippmann is a likely gun to find refurbished as its the standard rental gun at nearly every field in the world. Google refurbished tippmanns, and you get thousands of websites offering them.

These $99 SA-8s could be reburbed TAC-8s, but since the valves and barrels are slightly different, that seems unlikely. They could also be refurbed SA-8s, but the market for them is very, very small. Plus, with the Tippmann, they were honest and pointed out it was a refurb. They didn't mention that here.

However, that said, does seem like they are phasing out the SA-8. Probobly in favor of the newer 8.1 version, which has a few new features. When factories phase out a line, they usually try to get rid of everything they possibly can, which includes making guns out of leftover parts, broken parts, refurbed, and reman parts. Just to get rid of everything.....

So... who knows what we will get. Seems a good deal regardless
I wonder if they will ever offer FN303 style ammo. That would be interesting. Pretty much a pistol form 303 running off CO2. I mean, they are both automag based valves, .68 cal, and accept the FS/303 shape rounds. But imagine the recoil from that thing! Those 303 rounds are full of bismuth.
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Old 01-24-2010, 06:32 PM   #463 (permalink)
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It's not really a big problem. Shake the gun down if you eject a partial mag. One ball will be in the "chamber" (check the hole in the top of the gun) which will probably not fall out, any others that are still in the magwell will drop right out. I'd chalk that up to operator inexperience.
Actually it was that one in the pipe that broke. But yes, it was operator inexperience.

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You vent ~1 shot worth of gas when you eject a mag.
Thats about my estimate, since it seems to vent the chamber. So if you add extra mag drops into the rotation you could end up burning up to half a mag vent loss, which makes topping off a quesitonable proposition, especially when you consider that it complicates the gas monitoring count. I don't forsee myself doing it.
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In my experience with Tac 8s, you can reload the magazine once reliably, and often two times before you start getting noticeable drop-off.
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Just make sure that if you don't seat the magazine properly the first time, you completely remove it from the magwell. If the valve opens but the catch doesn't engage, the mag might be forced out from the pressure of the CO2. It will also release a ball from the mag into the chamber. If the mag falls far enough, the ball can fall off the top of the magazine and down to the top of the valve. If you slam it home again with a ball here, the nipple will impale the ball, causing paint to get everywhere, and then charge the air system with paint. If you shoot it after this, you will get paint in the nipple, reg, relief valve, dump chamber, inside of the bolt, and inside of the barrel. It takes about 3 hours to clean all these things and a guide to do it.

I know from experience.
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I hope that mine is powder coated too.has any one gotten a blue powder coated one? how can you tell if it is powder coated or anoed? I use tippmanns and have only ever had about 1 annoed gun.

I searched removing powder coating on google

Removing Powder Coating Quickly and Cheaply -- Chopper Surplus
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I wonder if they will ever offer FN303 style ammo. That would be interesting. Pretty much a pistol form 303 running off CO2. I mean, they are both automag based valves, .68 cal, and accept the FS/303 shape rounds. But imagine the recoil from that thing! Those 303 rounds are full of bismuth.
They look kinda like the firststrike rounds, roughly, as far as shape is concerned.
Do they all have bismuth to add mass?



I'm surprised they still make the FN303. Last I heard, FN was sued after the Boston incident, and was ordered to pay 10 million dollars!! They will never recoup that money, and by continuing to sell the FN303, that only increases the chance of another 10 million dollar suit.

Granted, the gun did nothing wrong. The fault was with the Boston PD, but its just easier to blame the gun.
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I've never heard anything about a suit against fn. Got a link?
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I played with a 303 in a local gun shop, it was a beastly piece of hardware. All the rounds are bismuth loaded.

I want to try running a FS round through a 303. It would probably go about 600-800 FPS. :O
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I've never heard anything about a suit against fn. Got a link?
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