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Old 08-05-2010, 03:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Try a half/mid block? I personally prefer a longer setup on pumps and mechanical guns so it's not really a problem. Finding the right balance of ergonomics and playing style will help
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Old 08-05-2010, 05:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Its easier to fool the chrono judge by not holding your pump handle fwd or tilting the gun downwards. Most have no clue that it also affects velocity.

To me, a full size cocker/sniper without a beaver tail looks like its missing something.
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I don't like beaver tails on snipers. They get in the way when adjusting the velocity and make the gun longer behind the grip, where it needs to be shorter. There isn't much reason to have one on a pump anyway. You manually actuate the back block every time so it isn't like it's going to smack you in the face unexpectedly. Hitting your lens on a beaver tail is probably equally bad as hitting it on a cocking rod (with a pump). So why not just adjust your tank or asa/rail so that your face has room in the first place.

The only real reason I can see is to stop cheating.
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Old 08-06-2010, 07:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The only real reason I can see is to stop cheating.
The same, I've owned more cockers than fingers on my left hand and have never once hit myself in the face or mask with the back block, cocking rod, or anything else on the back of the gun. And its so obvious when someone thumbs the cocking rod, especially on a well tuned cocker or any pump, I mean the loud hissing noise after the shot is a dead give away. Of course a cocker with way too high of an lpr pressure (or with the reg a good bit above the sweet spot) likely wont hiss when you thumb it, but the shot still sounds louder.
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Old 08-06-2010, 08:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I've tried thumbing the cocking rod on every sniper I've owned over the chrono, and I can get the marker to hiss but it never goes more than 5-8fps faster? Is that the expected jump b/c i'd hardly call that an advantage.
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:50 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I've tried thumbing the cocking rod on every sniper I've owned over the chrono, and I can get the marker to hiss but it never goes more than 5-8fps faster? Is that the expected jump b/c i'd hardly call that an advantage.
Guns with really low pressures don't work as well because the dwell is already long. If your gun is set up for super short dwell, you can get quite an impressive increase in velocity. I've gotten 75 fps jumps trying this.

I don't run a beaver tail and to ensure I don't get called on cheating, I have a pointy cocking rod. There's no way to press down on it.
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what if that hit your mask? Would that not make a scratch or cracking the lens a lot easier?
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