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Old 12-01-2010, 12:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The pictures of the "Proton" prototype have caused a good bit of controversy over on PBNation. A lot of people aren't happy that this design is being shopped around to Valken.
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Jack Rice of Alien noticed my comment about the bolt pin in the TechPB forum, and is apparently somewhat concerned that the Proton is very close to the prototype for their upcoming "Invasion" gun.
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[quote name='Jack Rice' date='30 November 2010 - 08:34 PM' timestamp='1291167283' post='1832552']
[quote name='The Inflicted' date='30 November 2010 - 03:29 PM' timestamp='1291159770' post='1832058']Although, something makes me wonder... if the Proton is a FASOR, why isn't its boltpin in the rearward position? [/quote] :tup: Somebody is thinking - though I will be happier if it is a FASOR
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Truth is I don't even know what "exact shop" the Invasion gun is being made at. Many parts are done by subcontractors. As far as whoring out parts - he has the patent to the bottle adapter. So the ASA's look very similar on some guns. The grips and foregrips and even the barrel. Well everyone is in a hurry to get pics out and get feedback - so before all the parts are done - things like feed necks and panels that are laying around are put on - so the guns can get tested and pictures can get taken and such.

What I can say for the Alien gun: I approved the feed neck - so Invasion will have the feed neck that most everyone says was on the Impulse. The grip fame may look somewhat similar but not more similar than many others - trigger looks entirely different and hinges differently. I think the fact that the colors are very close is helping players think they are more similar. Red photographs well so you see it in a lot of early pics. I repeat that the grips and the barrel that have been shown are not my design and will not be used.

As to this gun - well it's not the "barrel stuck on the lower tube" that the Impulse was. I don't think it's been determined if it has the balanced poppet valve that Impulse had - so what made Impulse Impulse doesn't seem to be there - now it's a double stacked poppet - and maybe it's more ETCH than Impulse. Add that the original release said it's a FASOR - and then it's more Fusion than Impulse - but FASOR too is speculation.

I have never seen the gun and hadn't heard about it until this thread. So... it's a double stacked gun, that they put a couple of "extra" parts on that were also stuck on the Invasion - but the "extra" parts will be replaced (at least on the Invasion). That's what I know

Edit: I don't want to be stepping on anyones toes here - and I don't normally post in other manufacturer's threads - but as far as I can tell, if this is even a Valken gun is uncertain at this time.
Here are the two markers. Significant differences, to be sure, but there are a lot of common design elements here too. Check out the regulators/foregrips.



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Old 12-01-2010, 01:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 12-01-2010, 02:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Some one really needs to do a Wang-shaped barrel tip just for the more...uh...streamlined and organic looking markers. You can refer to your gun as the sexual assault rifle.
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Perhaps an aftermarket tip at least...
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'll be honest. I havent liked any of Aliens markers since after the Remains original release. After that it just sort of seems like they decided to pick bits out of Promasters and Egos to make guns.

I'd pick up a Proton for myself, and those little E1s look like a blast for newer players or tournament prizes.
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Old 12-01-2010, 06:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Better pic of the E1:
Looks like it has nothing to do with Valken.
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Does anyone know if they have set a release for the proton?
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