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Old 03-17-2011, 11:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Its not just a matter of putting a smaller shell on existing internals though. Halos and prophecys are big in part because the motor/feed mech/batteries take up so much space. I think you could get away with a smaller spinner and motor running slower than the "big guys" are capable of going on less batteries, but it would take some redesign.

There's also the fact that the industry wants you to buy paint, they aren't going to give everyone a better way to conserve it.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:44 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well stated Apoc.

I would love to see a slim version of the rotor. Kinda like the Greg Hastings 2 cover. Slender would be a big plus for me. I don't want the hopper sticking out 2 or so inches on either side of my guns body.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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This just got dumped into my e-mail inbox.

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"It is a more solid platform based on the Proph, more durable, easier to put together, handles fragile paint nicely...slightly improved battery life. Speed feed available. "

These pictures have been moved or something...


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I wonder if that is the Lurker from all of the sites, IIRC he is also a member here.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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He's also a great guy and does good business, and makes great barrels

pics are GONE by the way.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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There's also the fact that the industry wants you to buy paint, they aren't going to give everyone a better way to conserve it.
I would argue that a force fed hopper would encourage some pumpers to shoot more paint vs tiny gravity fed hoppers.

(some) People in the industry want to make money. Others do it for a love of the sport and to promote and improve the sport. This might be an opportunity to do both.

Also, with intelligent design and some well thought out planning, one of these manufacturers ought to be able to figure a way to build a scalable platform for their next generation of hoppers. That way they should be able to use some components of their larger capacity hoppers on smaller capacity hoppers, thus reducing the need for completely new parts. A shared base with interchangeable shells could work. The reason it hasn't been done yet (down to this scale - there was that front man, back man stuff) is there was no perceived demand for it. We can change that. It might not get made until the current products in the pipelines get flushed through or until someone new steps up. But the sooner we ask, the sooner it can begin. (squeaky wheel)
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:13 PM   #28 (permalink)
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He's also a great guy and does good business, and makes great barrels

pics are GONE by the way.
Pics are on the google docs listed above - someone else snagged them and rehosted them after we were ordered to remove ours.

Thanks for the awesome words!

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Old 03-17-2011, 02:21 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I know many players that use 50rd and 100rd gravity hoppers with their mechanical and electronic guns. The market for a force-feed ~100rd hopper would NOT be limited to the pump community.
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Old 03-17-2011, 02:24 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If folks are being asked to remove them... Let's not rehost them please. I know folks are excited about it, and they should be.

But when things are in the testing phases and R&D, that's a tough time to release photos as people get.

Like when the Grey Ghost in Progress photo was shown:
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/Ghost-In-Progress.jpg

People were up in arms about it. The end product was much better, but that photo did not make people happy.

Wait for the final product.
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