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Old 04-18-2011, 09:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I love tippmann but God at all the screws, and i have always thought the 98s where a pain to dismantle. Now this with more screws.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Now take that body and put the phenom valve train in it.

I held one and cock fired it a few times. It seemed a heck of a lot better built than other plastic guns in its price range.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I checked a Gryphon out on Sunday, a guy let me handle it before a game. With a 200 round hopper and 48ci air tank, it was lighter than my springfed classic mag with 13ci...

The ergonomics were really actually quite good. It pointed well and had a nice wraparound area with the front grip. Guts are c98 clone, so you can't really go wrong with that. Whether it'll hold up to abuse and maintenance remains to be seen.
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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why don't stores buy old guns and sell them for cheap? Wheres the market for cheap guns? I mean you can get an old spyder, one of those plastic scotts masks or z leaders, and bundle it with a 1.99 VL and a new Co2 for like 30 which is only like $10 more than a ER2 starter kit? heck u can get a talon starter kit for $1+shipping on ebay.
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