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Old 05-06-2011, 07:27 AM   #21 (permalink)
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My mind is wandering towards either a Mini or Mag style valve- I'm somewhat curious about those breech inserts, though. I don't see a bolt fitting well through them, which would then mean the insert, as a whole, moves? The barrel looks fixed into the body, but it could be interesting to have a Nova style barrel assembly.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:30 AM   #22 (permalink)
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According to Krazy8, cause he got to hold it,

"There are already 6 or so different handles in design.
Pump stroke is accomplished with one finger and the length of the stroke is right around 1"."
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:44 AM   #23 (permalink)
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So it looks like the valve is held in place by one thumb screw and the breech is separate and held in place by the other thumb screw. Interchangeable breech would be cool. Different detents and threads? Pump "button" is nice and small. Nice to see it's a semi and you only have to pump the bolt.

Is that the Phenom valve?
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:51 AM   #24 (permalink)
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wasnt really gunna try an get one of these but now my mind has changed l0l
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:53 AM   #25 (permalink)
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It's based on his "would have been" electro semi Revolution and will have that name.

Most if not all of these questions are answered in the other threads about this.

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Revolution valve, no batteries, pump action with only enough resistance to physicly register that you are cocking it, removable breeches are different sizes eliminateing the need for detents, SC and OC setups will be available.

These are pics of the prototype there is still a lot of work and testing before we get to purchase this baby that means no ETA on the market and not estimated price other than more than a Phantom.
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I don't so much make money, as provide a conduit for it's movement.
Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
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If the pump handle is going to be that small it's a good sign that this thing is going to have a VERY light pump stroke.
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That is one of many designs he is looking at for the pump. Mike said pumping it with one finger would not be a problem.
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I don't so much make money, as provide a conduit for it's movement.
Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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If it's based off the Revolution, then it should have a rotating bolt. Looking at the picture with what I assume are colored bolt sizers, they're notched like a torx screw in the back, possibly suggesting rotating bolt as well.
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If it's based off the Revolution, then it should have a rotating bolt. Looking at the picture with what I assume are colored bolt sizers, they're notched like a torx screw in the back, possibly suggesting rotating bolt as well.
I doubt it, that was the breech that was rotory and electric to make it semi auto.

"The Revolution was a pneumatic valve power piston design that he developed in the early 90's and to the best of his knowledge is not being used by any other marker. It had a rotary breech that was spun by a servo motor." - Vintage Rex

I think you will find, the Revolution valve is what he's using and the pump handle is going to be doing the job that the rotory breech, servo motor and batteries did on the semi auto version.
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:31 AM   #30 (permalink)
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now to make the stock barrel .680 or smaller. =D
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