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Old 07-28-2011, 06:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I've heard Sheridan's run well on liquid CO2. Palmer's recommends running a Blazer on liquid in cold weather.
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you'll also get a lot of "snow" coming out the end of the barrel. That's just the liquid that hasn't hit the gas stage 100%
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Common misconception, its actually the moisture in the air freezing because of the CO2's expansion. That's why its much more prevalent during high humidity.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:19 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I would take one in a 20 or 16oz for my collection of old tippmanns, I thought I would have to hydro my old tanks or just change the tank, if the price is good I might take 2.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:22 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Common misconception, its actually the moisture in the air freezing because of the CO2's expansion. That's why its much more prevalent during high humidity.
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I've heard Sheridan's run well on liquid CO2. Palmer's recommends running a Blazer on liquid in cold weather.
Not my KP3, that's how it shoots 400 FPS. You get into a decent fire fight and start cranking away on it, and it starts drawing in liquid CO2. Liquid CO2 obviously has a much greater potential for expansion than gaseous and thus shoots hot. This is what lead to my confusion on why people would seek tanks that purposely siphon liquid CO2.
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I would take one in a 20 or 16oz for my collection of old tippmanns, I thought I would have to hydro my old tanks or just change the tank, if the price is good I might take 2.
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Not my KP3, that's how it shoots 400 FPS. You get into a decent fire fight and start cranking away on it, and it starts drawing in liquid CO2. Liquid CO2 obviously has a much greater potential for expansion than gaseous and thus shoots hot. This is what lead to my confusion on why people would seek tanks that purposely siphon liquid CO2.
You have to tune the valve and main spring for liquid, otherwise you'll shoot hot. But don't take my word on Sheridans working on liquid well, I've never tried it and that is just second hand info.
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I don't have any experience with sheridans and liquid but on my Thundercat all I had to do was tune the valve with the velocity and recock screws on the side. Luckily my thundercat wasn't shooting hot when I switched to liquid. But it gets pretty dang cold after some fast shooting hahaha
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Some of the older guns run better on liquid because the need more air (correct me if I'm wrong) and the liquid supplies that.
All guns run better on liquid co2*. You get all the benefits of HPA using a simple $7 siphon tube. No shootdown, no spikes, ultra-consistent FPS (better accuracy and effective range), and no need for fancy regs, lpcs, ecs, a/siphons, or expensive HPA tanks that can fail/bleed/spike and go out of hydro.

* (except guns that can not run a siphon. These are typically guns that require a regulated airsource below 800psi).

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Common misconception, its actually the moisture in the air freezing because of the CO2's expansion. That's why its much more prevalent during high humidity.
The "snow" is dry ice, but the white "smoke" is definetly moisture in the air. Liquid co2 itself is not cold, but when it flashes to gas in the barrel, it sucks heat out of the air causing the temp to drop. If the temp drops below the dew point, then the moisture in the air condenses into water that you can see.

Anyway, I love this picture. I post it all the time, but who cares?
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That is a pretty cool picture. I've been kicking around changing my 4oz tank to siphon to use on my phantom on those cold days. But I don't know if it's useless to run a siphon on a vertical ASA. Anyone have experience?
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