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Old 10-29-2011, 06:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Excellent job Carter
I am trying to get myself able to play "stock class" paintball.
I have a stock class adapter for my T2 ordered and I have a 12g changer somewhere in my pile of parts in the apartment.
Keep us informed if you are planning to do an event. I would definitely be interested
if there was a drive to create an organized event with enough lead time out I would definitely be in.
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Great write up! I've just played my first day of stock play today and i've gotta say, I'm hooked!!!
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Well done Carter. Can this be stickied so we can refer to it as needed ? I never A/T my Phantom, till I bought a CCM... Now I do it out of habit. With mixed results... the mix usually drips out the end of my barrel.
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:38 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Micro CA only holds one 12ie at a time so if you put a stick feed on it it would make it Stock class according to these rules.
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Not allowed due to the check valve allowing over pressuring

Thats what I was talking about. Aside from that & the regulator acting as a check valve its S/C. Even IF I can make the M-CA not as a check valve the reg will still act as one.


What about a class just a step after S/C toward open that would allow something little like that, 3.5oz tank or small 40-50 round hopper? Didnt one of the other sets of rules have something along those lines for a modded S/C?









Rereading that before I hit submit it sorta seems like Im whining.... oh well, just asking a question & trying a small idea on the table.
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Old 10-30-2011, 02:08 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Wouldn't that simply fall under open class?

I see what was presented as:
1. Vintage Stock Class (strictly old school rules)
2. Modern Day Stock Class (the new proposal)
3. Open Class Pump (any pump configuration not covered by 1 or 2)

I think Carter's intent to keep things simple is the way to go.

There are probably dozens of slight variations/exceptions that folks can come up with to squeeze into "stock class", but why try? The new plan seems fair. Surely we can all make any small changes to our current set ups to meet the requirements. Yeah?

And I thought there was a "house rules" caveat thrown in there somewhere, so if the person/group running the game wants to go modified stock with specific changes allowed so be it. Small hopper, limited paint, 3.5 oz tank. Or just call that open class and go have fun.

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What about a class just a step after S/C toward open that would allow something little like that, 3.5oz tank or small 40-50 round hopper? Didnt one of the other sets of rules have something along those lines for a modded S/C?

Rereading that before I hit submit it sorta seems like Im whining.... oh well, just asking a question & trying a small idea on the table.
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Old 10-30-2011, 02:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 10-30-2011, 03:27 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Not to be more of a PITA than usual... But what about those of us that prefer pump Mags?

The one small modification to eliminate the whole "inconvenient semi" thing of a PA marker with an AT would be...

If the marker has an AT, then the pump stroke must be at least one ball diameter.
If the marker does *NOT* have an AT then the pump stroke may be of any length.

Simple, straight forward, allows pump Mags and eliminiated PA/AT's markers...

Then again, I could be tired and solving non existant problems

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Old 10-30-2011, 03:43 AM   #38 (permalink)
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So when does the formation the National Stock Class League start, and where do I sign?
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:53 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Thats what I was talking about. Aside from that & the regulator acting as a check valve its S/C. Even IF I can make the M-CA not as a check valve the reg will still act as one.
Proposed new rules don't say anything about no check valves or regs.

The New Proposed Rules

1. Pump Paintball Gun - Some manually actuated mechanical manipulation must be performed to load a ball and/or cock the action (No pneumatic assist, electronic, or mechanical advantage, must require a hand movement of at least 0.75 inches)
2. Stick Feed (Single stacked paintballs, 20 round max) running parallel to the gun or Vertical Stick (10 round max). No force feeds/springs allowed.
3. Single 12-gram changer (No 6-paks, turret changers etc)



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Not to be more of a PITA than usual... But what about those of us that prefer pump Mags?

The one small modification to eliminate the whole "inconvenient semi" thing of a PA marker with an AT would be...

If the marker has an AT, then the pump stroke must be at least one ball diameter.
If the marker does *NOT* have an AT then the pump stroke may be of any length.

Simple, straight forward, allows pump Mags and eliminiated PA/AT's markers...

Then again, I could be tired and solving non existant problems

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I think the .75" movement is unnecessary. I'm in the minority.
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Old 10-30-2011, 11:10 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I like this idea - it allows guys like me, who have mostly open class pump markers, as well as the majority of pump players today (think Azodin and sniper platforms) who have markers that were easily excluded from the original definition of stock class - to actually play stock class.


However, to put a pile of exceptions for markers that are in the vast minority (PA'd markers and pump mags) would muddy what is trying to be very easy. I vote for keeping this definition as simple as possible.

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