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[StJimmy666]

Originally Posted by chopper duke

Edit: the above is about the first post, not Jimmy's. Any time medical attention is needed, a report needs to be filed with the police.

Oh, and Jimmy, you should really play pump!

The AO asked me if i wanted to press charges while i was at the hospital, but i felt the beating he took was enough, the cop also agreed that my team was "Neutralizing the threat with equal or lesser force" so nothing happened to them except a slap on the wrist and a dont be a vigilante speech.

[StJimmy666]

Originally Posted by PhantomXJ

Sometimes surrending isnt an option since they have teamates around or behind them and its quick/easier to try and shoot them in a pack or something.

Thats what I always do, iv never tried to surrender a player with anything plastic and hard sticking out on his/her person.

[LoneWolf]

Two instances that happened with me recently - the first (and most recent):

The field I normally play at has a "bunker rule" for normal walk-on play. Now, I find this to work pretty well, especially with some of the less experienced players - prevents some real close in firing that could cause issues (either with injury or hard feelings).

About a month ago, I found myself in an extremely bad position (tried to make a bunker at the 50, but got myself tied down in a very small bunker right in front of it - being looked down upon by at least two or three of the opposition). I knew I was dead, it was only a matter of time. Well, after about 10mins of attempting to snapshoot or fire out of the left or right of the bunker, I hear in front of me "bunker, bunker, bunker" - which meant that I was out - a guy was charging up on my position.

So, as I begin to get up, this same guy continues around the side of the bunker and light me up as well (six or seven really good shots, including one right on the bicep that bounced - from about 3' away). Now, there was no reason for him to shoot, I was already out - the ref called me out, but this guy still decided to add the exclamation point to me being eliminated.

Now, I wasn't really upset, these things happen - of course, here is the result of his short range shots:



Three weeks later and you can still see the outline of the bruise....

Now, the second instance was about a year ago:

I was playing a typical walk-on day at the same field. About half-way through the day, we have this group of guys join us - mostly in their late teens, early twenties. Really kinda bad attitudes, some of these shooting blatantly hot. So, during the last game of the day, I get one of these guys dead to rights - he's hanging out to the side of this tree, maybe fifty feet from me, doesn't even see me.

So, I put two paintballs into his side. I see them break. He just moves behind the tree and comes back out again shooting. Well, I put two more into him - same thing, he goes back and comes out shooting again. This happens about four times, all of a sudden, this guy starts charging me, firing the whole time (I'm pretty much stunned at this point, not knowing what the heck is going on).

He gets right up to me, then the next thing I know I feel myself falling backwards, kind of in slow motion, and ending up on the ground. He either hit me with his fist or more likely his marker - knocking me unconscious. I didn't know where I was, who anyone else was, or what was going on.

Unfortunately, the refs realize what had happened until I was already down, these guys just packed up their stuff and hightailed it off the field, and I was helped by the rest of the players that stayed. I had a concussion, the inside of my mouth was all messed up, and I was just in general in a bad way.

I was never able to identify who my assailant was - though the refs had a really good idea who it was & the police weren't able to do much, other than to make a note of who they though the guy was & keep their eye out.

I had never heard of anyone getting assaulted like that, and sure as heck never thought it would happen to me. In this case, if I had been able to figure out who did it, I definitely would have pressed charges. Attitudes like that have no place anywhere near a paintball field. And in this situation, this guy was blatantly cheating, but I never fired more than a couple of paintballs at a time, anyway.

People take this game way too seriously - you should never go out on the field with the intention of physically hurting someone - either by overshooting or shooting hot. It ruins the game for everyone.

[Magic]

That is, by far, the worst bruise I have ever seen from a paintball. Do you normally bruise easily or what?

[PhantomXJ]

Why does everyone think paintballs are so much more dangerous at close range?

This is all "theory" but anyways. A paintball chronoed at 300FPS will probably going atleast 285-290FPS at 20ft, which ppl consider a "safer distance". That 10-15FPS isnt a very big difference.

If 300 FPS is declared a safe speed for the game of paintball then why does it matter how far its shot from.

Here is two examples,
First one was when i was behind a large spindle shooting to my left where they were flanking us when i see this barrel stick out around the side of the spindle shooting at some players behind me. He apparently didnt know i was on the otherside. I then lean around the side of the bunker ad pump two shots from pointblank, unfortunetly when i autotrigger his teamate i chopped some paint which backed up in my hopper which prevented paint from feeding. Anyways i didnt hit him and he proceeded to light me up with his 08EGO at point blank. In the end altleast 3 shots hit my elbow causing it to bleed. I was wearing a tshirt so it hit bare skin.

The second happened a couple weeks later. The last opponent went into the castle so me and a few other teamates begin to surround it. Anyways i come around the castle and see some young teamate, now that the castle was surrounded i start to walk back towards the door, appearantly this kid didnt realize i was on his team and takes several shots at me for 20ft. On hits my arm and the other hit my leg. I was wearing standard military BDUs at the time, regardless both shots broke the skin and caused me to bleed.

Both markers where chronoed at below 289FPS yet its still enough to cause you to bleed at 20+ feet.

So what makes a shot from 5 feet so much more harmful than one at 20 or more feet?

[Flywsi]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Was this at the Tactical field?

Nope not at Tactical. It was at Panthers and this 'mil-sim' group were saying they were CSPO, which they clearly were not ( I had actual CSPO members to confirm this).

Not to be cocky or anything but our family of pump players were having one of our good days (playing hard and aiming true type of thing lol)we were kicking their asses all day. This group did not like this too much as both the owners and staff were praising us for our play style and saying things like "We need more pump players at this field!" The mil-sim group didn't take this lightly and proceeded to overshoot our family and just about every renter on the field.....all day..


I myself spoke to the owners and staff and nothing was done about it. So now I have a very bad taste in my mouth with this field and mil-sim style of play, so I will clearly avoid playing at and with these groups.




PS: Reiner are you gonna be playing WCPW?? Our family of 6 is totally coming down to experience one hel of a good time!

[Brick]

Originally Posted by punkncat

I hate surrender rules. Be a good sport about it, but leave nothing to question.

I could not agree with you anymore!

Originally Posted by PhantomXJ

So what makes a shot from 5 feet so much more harmful than one at 20 or more feet?

I will second this point aswell. If I don't mind getting bunkered, why should anyone else? Is that to say people should be shot +3 times? Not in the slightest, but I'm not one to take 2 in the back and complain about it.


I suppose i will also share a story, from sunday, to take up some time. I was playing at my local field (where I work, free paintball rocks SO MUCH!), this field is setup as an airball field in the centre, surrounded by scenario buildings. So me and a few rental guys are playing "speedball" (only using the centre court) with a group of egyptian guys. They were notorious for cheating all day, and I ended up watching one of them wipe 4 of my hits,from my pump gun no less, but I digress. So I run centre fifty right away, one of the egyptian guys is RIGHT behind the bunker I am at. He called mercy and I declined with a short and polite "No thanks!". This completely stunned him. He said it again. my response "No thanks, come shoot me instead". He decided to crawl, hoping to go unnoticed I guess, around the bunker, to which he saw my barrel at his side ( I never aim a marker at someone's face that close, just makes me nervous). So I ended up surrendering him.

It's situations like this I think that call for Mercy rules to be optional. Had I had the ability, I would have gone for a bunker run, put one in his back and tried my luck at hitting the rest. This would have made the game alot smoother and less confusing. However, as can be proven in that same story, the mercy rule has it's place. This poor guy would been done for if I had been someone else who didn't aim for his side. That could have been one nasty welt to the throat or some other painful area. In my closing (and most likely very confusing, due to it being 4:03AM) statement, The mercy rule has it's places, most of the time, it should be left as a good intention and not often an action.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by Flywsi

Nope not at Tactical. It was at Panthers and this 'mil-sim' group were saying they were CSPO, which they clearly were not ( I had actual CSPO members to confirm this).

Not to be cocky or anything but our family of pump players were having one of our good days (playing hard and aiming true type of thing lol)we were kicking their asses all day. This group did not like this too much as both the owners and staff were praising us for our play style and saying things like "We need more pump players at this field!" The mil-sim group didn't take this lightly and proceeded to overshoot our family and just about every renter on the field.....all day..


I myself spoke to the owners and staff and nothing was done about it. So now I have a very bad taste in my mouth with this field and mil-sim style of play, so I will clearly avoid playing at and with these groups.

Yeah, if you know our philosophy, you know we don't like players shooting a lot of paint at our field. Other fields, such as Panther, give paint discounts to some groups (CSPO is one I know of). When you give discounts, you need them to shoot more to keep your profits. So it doesn't surprise me that they don't do much about it, although I would have expected at least for management to have a talk with them.

The CSPO asked if they could get a discount at our field, promising us they would make it their regular field on the island and promising that they would shoot lots of paint. You could imagine how far that got with me. Why would I want to get a bunch of guys coming to shoot up my regular customers and then reward them by supplying them with cheap paint for their efforts? But I guess that's not the way some players see it. They think you are going to jump at the quick buck, not realizing that it will hurt your business, and the industry in general, by doing so.

Originally Posted by Flywsi

PS: Reiner are you gonna be playing WCPW?? Our family of 6 is totally coming down to experience one hel of a good time!

Officially I have to work it. Last year I was too busy (business partner had a death in the family and had to leave town just prior to the weekend) and couldn't get enough staff, so I had to ref the pump speedball portion (Saturday), but I was able to play most of the rec portion on Sunday. I'm hoping to be able to take part in both this year.

Are you guys here for both days and are you camping?

Don't forget to register early (I think it's July 16) to get in on the free Sterling draw.