What pistol does one buy? - Page 5

Shmavistime · 08-02-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by agentSmith

P.S. Schmavis you know I love the 3357, but the field paint thing's a killer, I want alot of opponents and I want them to use anything that makes them comfortable, that way they won't have any excuses when I shoot them anyway

As we all know, its the best shootin' arm around.

Cunha · 08-18-2006, 02:32 AM

I had to make this comment and didnt have time to read through all 4 pages.. so sorry if its not relevant at all.

I noticed a few people being curious about the "RP" or sydarm style loading system on a squall and wanted to mention something..

I dont know if anyone has ever felt a 2k1 pgp but it has a sliding rear cover for the magazine and you get to try and pour a paint tube down into it at a 90 degree angle, this process takes a bit of shaking and working the tube. The balls dont really want to flow. Maybe if the feed plug that compresses the paintballs into the back of the magazine was parabolic it could work haha I dont know.

But what I do know is that a standard squall or microsquall spring feed style has proven to be the quickest non magazine based reloading around.

splattttttt · 08-18-2006, 06:15 AM

I beg to differ C.
Jamming a cigar tube into a stock feed, is the quickest. Spring feeds just help to load the breech. Maybe that's what you mean

agentSmith · 08-18-2006, 08:49 AM

Cunha,
I carry a P68sc along with my zeus. I had a maddcustoms speedgate on the sheridan, but took it off for holsterability.

In my opinion after carrying one of each type, it's the front loading that makes the difference. The PGP2k1 gate isn't a great design anyway and there's always the small lip at the breech even with the bolt closed, but the difference is bigger. Most people I see that use a pgp2k1 end up pouring paint while holding the gun at their waist pointing down (if they're standing) or by changing their grip(in a tight bunker), the front load is held vertically up in front of the face at eye level whether standing or crouched tight and the gun hand never has to alter it's grip. I like it much better.

Rob

ringer706 · 08-18-2006, 05:34 PM

Well, when the work chiggidy check comes, I think I might pick up one of those sydarms at doro. Anyone know who makes a CA adapter? I'm thinkin about doing that and mounting a 4oz to my leg and then run a remote.

Cunha · 08-18-2006, 05:48 PM

Im talking for spring fed semi automatic pistols..sorry for not being clear.

The sydarm/ RP style spring feed just tends to be slower than an experienced user on the standard style.

All styles of non spring fed loading are quicker since there is no spring to compress.

And im sure there are people that are better off using the sydarm style feed.. its just something to think about is all.

ringer706 · 08-18-2006, 11:04 PM

Yea, I can see where your coming from. That and I doubt it'd be hard to make it accept 10 rd tubes. Oh, do normal AGD frames fit it? Wonder what it'd be like to have my intelliframe on one.

Cunha · 08-19-2006, 03:57 PM

The sydarm does take all AGD frames.

The only real problem with the AGD style spring feed is getting the balls to flow well. Other than that its a decent system.

agentSmith · 08-20-2006, 08:11 PM

Well Cunha,
I'm talking Semi spring fed pistols too and we're doing something VERY differently if you think rear feed is faster.
Rear feed=
compress spring
open gate
dump paint(past the breech mind you)
close gate
release spring

Front load=
Compress spring
dump paint
release spring

I suspect you are seeing people with years of experience with rear loads and folks not familiar with front loads, because five steps do not beat three steps in the hands of equally competent users.

Rob

08-18-2006, 06:15 AM	#43 (permalink)
splattttttt MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bean Town, U.S.A. Posts: 3,035	I beg to differ C. Jamming a cigar tube into a stock feed, is the quickest. Spring feeds just help to load the breech. Maybe that's what you mean __________________ My Feed Back and album Norman Vincent Peale: "Believe that you are defeated, believe it long enough, and it is likely to become a fact. We tend to get what we expect." Don't let the so called Global Elite stick you with a chip. Carpe Diem Whish your Dog was smarter???

08-18-2006, 05:34 PM	#45 (permalink)
ringer706 Seasoned Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hudsonville Michigan Posts: 666	Well, when the work chiggidy check comes, I think I might pick up one of those sydarms at doro. Anyone know who makes a CA adapter? I'm thinkin about doing that and mounting a 4oz to my leg and then run a remote. __________________ Feedback She told me we couldn't afford beer anymore and that I'd have to quit drinking. Then I caught her spending $65 on makeup. I asked how come I had to give up stuff and she didn't. She said she needed the makeup to look pretty for me. I told her that was what the beer was for. I don't think she's coming back...

08-18-2006, 11:04 PM	#47 (permalink)
ringer706 Seasoned Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hudsonville Michigan Posts: 666	Yea, I can see where your coming from. That and I doubt it'd be hard to make it accept 10 rd tubes. Oh, do normal AGD frames fit it? Wonder what it'd be like to have my intelliframe on one. __________________ Feedback She told me we couldn't afford beer anymore and that I'd have to quit drinking. Then I caught her spending $65 on makeup. I asked how come I had to give up stuff and she didn't. She said she needed the makeup to look pretty for me. I told her that was what the beer was for. I don't think she's coming back...

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08-18-2006, 02:32 AM	#42 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 4,212	I had to make this comment and didnt have time to read through all 4 pages.. so sorry if its not relevant at all. I noticed a few people being curious about the "RP" or sydarm style loading system on a squall and wanted to mention something.. I dont know if anyone has ever felt a 2k1 pgp but it has a sliding rear cover for the magazine and you get to try and pour a paint tube down into it at a 90 degree angle, this process takes a bit of shaking and working the tube. The balls dont really want to flow. Maybe if the feed plug that compresses the paintballs into the back of the magazine was parabolic it could work haha I dont know. But what I do know is that a standard squall or microsquall spring feed style has proven to be the quickest non magazine based reloading around.

08-18-2006, 08:49 AM	#44 (permalink)
agentSmith Old Navy? No, Old Army! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	Cunha, I carry a P68sc along with my zeus. I had a maddcustoms speedgate on the sheridan, but took it off for holsterability. In my opinion after carrying one of each type, it's the front loading that makes the difference. The PGP2k1 gate isn't a great design anyway and there's always the small lip at the breech even with the bolt closed, but the difference is bigger. Most people I see that use a pgp2k1 end up pouring paint while holding the gun at their waist pointing down (if they're standing) or by changing their grip(in a tight bunker), the front load is held vertically up in front of the face at eye level whether standing or crouched tight and the gun hand never has to alter it's grip. I like it much better. Rob

08-18-2006, 05:48 PM	#46 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 4,212	Im talking for spring fed semi automatic pistols..sorry for not being clear. The sydarm/ RP style spring feed just tends to be slower than an experienced user on the standard style. All styles of non spring fed loading are quicker since there is no spring to compress. And im sure there are people that are better off using the sydarm style feed.. its just something to think about is all.

08-19-2006, 03:57 PM	#48 (permalink)
Cunha MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 4,212	The sydarm does take all AGD frames. The only real problem with the AGD style spring feed is getting the balls to flow well. Other than that its a decent system.

08-20-2006, 08:11 PM	#49 (permalink)
agentSmith Old Navy? No, Old Army! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 901	Well Cunha, I'm talking Semi spring fed pistols too and we're doing something VERY differently if you think rear feed is faster. Rear feed= compress spring open gate dump paint(past the breech mind you) close gate release spring Front load= Compress spring dump paint release spring I suspect you are seeing people with years of experience with rear loads and folks not familiar with front loads, because five steps do not beat three steps in the hands of equally competent users. Rob