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Old 03-01-2012, 11:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I do think they have a different dynamic. But they have more in common than not.
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I play both SC (Carter Machine Buzzard) and pistol (Tiberius T8) and agree, that they are similar in the aspect of limited paint, but I think that is where the similarities end. I carry less paint regardless of which I am shooting, but I can definitely throw more paint with my Buzzard over the course of a day than I do with my T8.
The T8 allows me to make faster, more aggressive moves since I have the ability to fire off a few shots rapidly to take out any opponent that I may get close to in the process. With the Buzzard. I usually make a semi-stupid move and get a little closer, eliminate opponents in a snap battle, shooting more paint than I would with my pistol, then move up again.

I tend to fight in snap shooting most of the time, but I think that the pistol has the "knife edge" factor. Allowing the more aggressive (read: stupid) moves while the stock class marker leans toward more of a methodical, eliminate and advance style of play.

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Old 03-02-2012, 08:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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While I don't have a problem with semi auto pistols jumping into "pump only" games or fun event, I DO have a problem if semi auto pistols try and play in a pump only tournament.

When there are actual points/trophy/money/prizes on the line, it's different in my book.

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P.S. I fully agree a S6 will shoot faster for longer than a semi auto pistol.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Am I pistol guy or a SC guy?
You are a paintballer who doesn't like a hopper.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I personally find that stock class guns are at their best (most fun) in a pistol configuration.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I think that the pistol has the "knife edge" factor. Allowing the more aggressive (read: stupid) moves while the stock class marker leans toward more of a methodical, eliminate and advance style of play.

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Exactly. This is what I meant by different dynamic between the two. The pump castle game coming up is a good example of the differences. I beleive addng pistols to that game would change the dynamic a lot, whereas the PP big game it wouldn't make as much of a difference.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
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You are a paintballer who doesn't like a hopper.
I must be. I looked in my "serviceable hopper" bin, and only came out with a winchester 50 and a sportshot. And even those are too big.

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I tend to fight in snap shooting most of the time, but I think that the pistol has the "knife edge" factor. Allowing the more aggressive (read: stupid) moves while the stock class marker leans toward more of a methodical, eliminate and advance style of play.
Yea thats what I love about pistols, the general badassery leading up to to a pointless and stupid elimination. I tend to not be very patient with a stock class marker in my hands, seeking to press the advantage of mobility and snapshooting that I have over the guy with half a dozen pods, a huge roboloader and a gigantic air system. I might need to keep on the lookout for a pair of used pistols, it might be a fun diversion from stock class.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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While I don't have a problem with semi auto pistols jumping into "pump only" games or fun event, I DO have a problem if semi auto pistols try and play in a pump only tournament.

When there are actual points/trophy/money/prizes on the line, it's different in my book.

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P.S. I fully agree a S6 will shoot faster for longer than a semi auto pistol.
Seriously? I would have a problem with a pistol in a stock class only tournament, but a pump tourney? A T2 in the right hands can shoot faster, and have a MUCH longer stream then any pistol on the market. Coming from someone who plays stock class and pistol in pump tournaments I will comfortably say pistols are incredibly outclassed against open class pumps.

A Semi pistol might be able to shoot slightly faster then an open class pump, but your stream of shots is limited to ~7-8. With a T2 I can put 200 rounds on you without ever needing to move anything but the pump handle, and I can reload those 200 rounds much faster then a pistol player reloads his 7-8.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:58 AM   #19 (permalink)
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There's definitely some difference, as the ability to dump all 10 rounds in a second or two gives the semi-auto pistol a unique tactical tool that the SC gun just doesn't have, but I do agree they probably have more in common than not. You have to watch how much you shoot, choose your shots wisely, and move for the kill more than open-class players.

I think the good SC player is going to be REALLY scary when you put a semi in his hands, the only trick being to nail the reloading process as springfeeds are somewhat more cumbersome than a jam feed. I play pistol the majority of the time but still have a healthy respect for the guys with patience enough to get skilled at true stock class.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I think that semi pistols are fine in open pump games. As others have said modern open class pumps with auto trigger can outshoot most pistols.

I don't think that semi pistols should play in SC games. I'm no purist by any means but SC is pump action rock and cock, 12gr, and stick feed. I don't care about barrel porting, 12gr changing methods and the little stuff.
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