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Old 03-08-2012, 04:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It needs a safety button with an oversized flat screw on the small end so that the safety stays in.

It needs only 1 or 2 sizes of common hex bolts, the first model is a pain to tech.

The regulator needs a bevel on the cylinder edge to keep the orings from getting cut.

I would love to see a snap lock & pivot that replicates an m79 action

A ladder sight would be nice
These ^^^^^ x100.

The safety is a joke. Mine blasts itself out with each shot. I can't even remember if I just took it out and put it somewhere safe or if I lost it on the field. Either way, the safety needs to be redesigned. As is, it seems like a band-aid last minute addition and is terrible.

Simplify the number of different allens needed. At very least standardize the ones that attach the trigger frame.

The entire regulator is a freaking joke. Mine has NEVER worked from day one. The most I got was maybe 10 shots before it completely shredded the oring. Fixed it by cranking it to full pressure and regulating it with an external Palmers Female Stabilizer. Look at the Stabilizer for the correct way to implement an over-pressure relief feature. No need to reinvent (and totally jack up) the wheel here. The stepped design is abysmal.

M79/shotgun style break action would be fantastic. As is, the break action hinge is cool, but would be much better if the hinge was further forward than the opening so the breach tipped up. Would also help facilitate easier loading.

Ladder sight add-on would be cool to see. I rigger up RAP4 M203 picatinny sight on mine. +10 style points.
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Old 03-08-2012, 04:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Not a big fan of the breach load. It doesn't always stay closed. Something that would be cool would be a clip fed round like the old tippmanns. Maybe 5 or so shots you could slide through.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input everyone. On our website tomorrow and here on the Forums we will be announcing the options that will be available. The input we have received has been everywhere from the completely insane (Havoc Gatling gun) to very helpful (AR-15 stock adapter). Thanks again.

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Old 03-08-2012, 05:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I vote Havok Gatling Gun.

But seriously, would an upgrade kit to turn the Havok into something like this:



be just way outside the realm of possibility?
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:53 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I submitted this through their web form already, but here goes...

I am a current Havoc owner, and have every mod except the extended
barrel (because everyone was sold out of those last Fall)

I would like to see a slide-breech undermount option, like on a real m203.

I'd also love a rear ASA option that will accommodate a
RAP4/Milsig-style AR stock slider so I can use a 13 or 22 ci tank with
one of their over-tank AR stocks. This would also allow the use of an
ASA-mount remote air AR tube and a variety of real AR stocks. I
have a teammate working on one for me, but for lack of an ASA tapping
setup we're having to adapt a less attractive existing ASA mount.

Anodization color options would be nice, especially OD, Coyote Tan,
and Coyote Brown.

If you wanted to branch out into molded plastics (I know, now I'm
really dreaming), I'd love a SCAR-L style M203 body kit and trigger
setup behind the magwell to work with the X7 Phenom with the Tacamo
mag kit.
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a Spikes Havoc KAOS set up for AR 15 stock

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Old 03-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I submitted this through their web form already, but here goes...

I am a current Havoc owner, and have every mod except the extended
barrel (because everyone was sold out of those last Fall)

I would like to see a slide-breech undermount option, like on a real m203.

I'd also love a rear ASA option that will accommodate a
RAP4/Milsig-style AR stock slider so I can use a 13 or 22 ci tank with
one of their over-tank AR stocks. This would also allow the use of an
ASA-mount remote air AR tube and a variety of real AR stocks. I
have a teammate working on one for me, but for lack of an ASA tapping
setup we're having to adapt a less attractive existing ASA mount.

Anodization color options would be nice, especially OD, Coyote Tan,
and Coyote Brown.

If you wanted to branch out into molded plastics (I know, now I'm
really dreaming), I'd love a SCAR-L style M203 body kit and trigger
setup behind the magwell to work with the X7 Phenom with the Tacamo
mag kit.
I do believe they offer some basic annoing.

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Old 03-09-2012, 10:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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back bottle ASA mod with raised 870 shotgun grip
making the 870 grip mod an optional valve back would be pretty easy



PVC barrel mods

getting the front of the valve to thread on an adaptor to common PVC 2 inch threads would be quite nice

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Old 04-24-2012, 01:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I pulled mine out, fired one shot last week, and it stopped cycling air

I assume the regulator O ring is cut, AGAIN.

Any word on us, Havoc Club owners getting some upgrades to a more functional system?
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I just picked up one of the exile ar-15 adapter plates from exile

(from exdee's cci rifle thread)

also... im workin on a rail to top mount my airsource (maxflow micro with 8/3k)

it would be sweet to get more stock options than the short dinky one, and some ASA mounting options (say like a phantom... bba, dropout, asa, vert asa, etc)
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