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Old 07-25-2012, 01:55 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:47 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I play pump in order to mandate a slightly more relaxed game and atmosphere. When players around me seem to have goals that are mutually exclusive to that either they or I go somewhere else. Since we play at my house it tends to be them.

*IF* you want to play a game without the equipment arms race the only way you are going to do that is to provide identical (or random draw) equipment to players as they take the field. Random draw would be fun
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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While I agree with a lot of the points here, one that sticks out the most is from Mike. I think that you really need to address where you're gonna be playing. I go to cheap night at a big field with a stock class marker because it's an extra challenge on top of already being an experienced player against a wide range of players. I would probably roll up to the speedball field and see how I fair, but I certainly wouldn't feel that confident about tagging a whole bunch of them.

One thing that I think is being forgotten is that a lot of competitive players shoot pumps to hone their snap-shooting skills, and their accuracy, because that's what pumps do. Even with an AT, your shots can still scatter everywhere if you don't know how to use it, and you may get two or three shots out of each snap. The guys that AT against the tourney ballers are really only playing fair. The guys that AT against a whole group of stock class players, well, that's a different story.
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I think the point here is that why shoot 8 balls a second with A/T instead of using a mech. I don't personally care either way but If I play pump, its stock class. If I want to play open class with an A/T, I'd just as soon use a nice mech.
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I think the point here is that why shoot 8 balls a second with A/T instead of using a mech. I don't personally care either way but If I play pump, its stock class. If I want to play open class with an A/T, I'd just as soon use a nice mech.
In terms of tourney players who are doing it to perfect certain skills, it's so they don't get butt-raped while trying. As much as you guys want to say, "Yeah, I go on the airball field with a stock class Phantom and own everyone" you need to realized that not everyone is cut out to do that. I would say that a large portion of the guys who go out and AT the crap out of everyone are tourney ballers who spend 95% of their playing time with an electro.

That being said, if that's how they're gonna play on the rec ball field, I would much rather get a couple extra hits at 7 bps than a whole bunch at 15 bps.
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In terms of tourney players who are doing it to perfect certain skills, it's so they don't get butt-raped while trying. As much as you guys want to say, "Yeah, I go on the airball field with a stock class Phantom and own everyone" you need to realized that not everyone is cut out to do that. I would say that a large portion of the guys who go out and AT the crap out of everyone are tourney ballers who spend 95% of their playing time with an electro.

That being said, if that's how they're gonna play on the rec ball field, I would much rather get a couple extra hits at 7 bps than a whole bunch at 15 bps.
Oh, by no means was I bashing it. I don't care what or how someone else plays paintball. I just personally don't think AT is very practical. I think if you're gonna use AT a bunch go with a mech semi. But I completely understand someone using AT and it doesn't bother me when someone else does it.
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Old 07-25-2012, 10:09 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I don't really care what people shoot. Go full auto, for all I care. I just scratch my head and wonder, "why?" when people play in pump only rec games and then try real hard to hit 8 bps or more. But unless there is a rule against it, I'm never going to tell someone not to do it, but I'll always wonder why.
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I wonder why people go to pump because of "rampers" and argue that the BPS has gotten out of control and then do everything they can to create a BPS race with pumps. It strikes me as as hypocritical as when automag owners want mech only tournaments so they can have a BPS advantage.
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