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[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally Posted by uv_halo

Simply put, CO2 is not nearly as flexible in it's operational usage- .

I suppose that depends on the gun, and the co2 setup.

To me, when I think of HPA, I think its less flexible. ie not all fields carry it. Not availible for renegade, or backyard games. Tanks are heavier, and larger. Tanks require regulation (adding to weight, and complexity). HPA Tanks have a shorter lifespan, more likely to have a hydro failure, etc.

But everyones situation is different

[uv_halo]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

I suppose that depends on the gun, and the co2 setup.

To me, when I think of HPA, I think its less flexible. ie not all fields carry it. Not availible for renegade, or backyard games. Tanks are heavier, and larger. Tanks require regulation (adding to weight, and complexity). HPA Tanks have a shorter lifespan, more likely to have a hydro failure, etc.

But everyones situation is different

I apologize for not qualifying my statement. As I know there are plenty of guns roaming the field today (but, their numbers are dwindling) that are setup solely for Liquid CO2, and simply will not work with HPA without modification.

I wonder though, are there guns that perform worse when using HPA (aside from those requiring liquid)? For example, my Bushmaster requires a solid 850PSI or greater input but otherwise, works fine on HPA- and no shootdown with autotriggering. My classic Spyder with a vertical harness mounted tank, Expansion chamber and regulating remote, and a secondary reg on gun, still managed to start shooting frost, and dropping velocity, when I started getting on the trigger. With HPA, the load got lighter, and it performed better (no shootdown).

I would say logistically, CO2 is way more flexible, for all those reasons you cited. On the other hand, these days, you cannot assume that CO2 is available anymore either (Several fields in my area do not support it), and if I remember correctly, it was not at Living Legends either.

[HP_Lovecraft]

On a related note, I was surfing around and saw this gun. I suppose it could be an alternate solution to the problem.... but seems like it would be a pain to actually use:

[moving_target]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

ie not all fields carry it.

But not all fields carry CO2 anymore either these days, some places just couldn't afford to keep doing CO2 fills

[ApoC_101]

Originally Posted by CJOttawa

One more thing:

Using anti-siphon CO2 and a regulator or two, I was getting +/-1 fps with high end paint on a PPS Blazer. CO2 can be deadly consistent if you know how to work with it.

This can also be done with a Retro 7, with only a 12 gram and no regulators

[4G010H3R0]

my TPX with the remote setup and my 12g Bored out(the hole bored a bit bigger).
I can connect the line.Gas up, then remove the line and get 4-5 shots at around 265 and the 6th shot the its below 180.

I was debating on boring out the inside body of one my TPXs getting a bigger internal air line and seeing if I can get a full mags worth of HPA air stuck in the system.

Wouldnt be very practical but for a "sidearm" style of use and also with it being hpa I see it becoming useful in a way.