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Old 11-18-2012, 10:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Can you change the barrel itself? 20in just seems cumbersome and wasteful for a limited air source marker.
According to David of Carmatech there is an advantage to the 20 inch barrel. One test they did at 225 ft was with the 14 in hitting center target. They swapped barrels to the 20 in, keeping the gun in the exact same spot and the rounds were going above the target. I know a lot of ppl say there's no difference but there seems to be with this one. At the fulda gap game (as posted on the sar12 fb page) they confirmed a 375 ft hit.

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Old 11-18-2012, 10:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Who is the distributor for this? Do they have a website?
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Those magazines are massive.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Who is the distributor for this? Do they have a website?
You can go thru them or another online retailer. I am forbidden to advertise it on here because technically it's still a pre order but I can advertise the custom mag pouches I have for it since those are in stock now. check the link to my store below:
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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You can go thru them or another online retailer. I am forbidden to advertise it on here because technically it's still a pre order but I can advertise the custom mag pouches I have for it since those are in stock now. check the link to my store below:
right on man thats awesome, do you have a link to the pouches?
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
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According to David of Carmatech there is an advantage to the 20 inch barrel. One test they did at 225 ft was with the 14 in hitting center target. They swapped barrels to the 20 in, keeping the gun in the exact same spot and the rounds were going above the target. I know a lot of ppl say there's no difference but there seems to be with this one. At the fulda gap game (as posted on the sar12 fb page) they confirmed a 375 ft hit.

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thats a terrible way to do a test.
barrel could be cocked causing it to aim higher or lower depending on which barrel youd be refering to....

each barrel would need rezeroed and chronoed.

this is a new relm for paintball where the slitest difference makes a big difference and new thought processes similiar to firearms need to be brought into play.
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im not saying though that the 20 inch is or is not better just a terrible way to do a test.... all things being relative to firearms ballistics if done right the 20 inch should be better.
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Old 11-19-2012, 01:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I like it, but one thing bugs the crap out of me. It seems to me that the magazines keep constant pressure on the paint stack. Doesn't look like there's any way to lock the follower down. I could be wrong, but I didn't notice in the video.

For first strikes, I'd wager that it's no biggie. For standard .68 though...that could pose some issues if your paint stays in the mag for long. Granted most people that buy this are not going to be using regular paint in it, but even still. Some folks will still use regular paint when FS is either not allowed, not available, or whatever other reason.

If Dye, Kingman, and Tippmann all have a way to lock the follower down so no stress is on the paint until it's loaded, why not this? Again, not a complaint about the SAR12 itself, just an observation about the magazines. I think this thing is awesome, and I would love to get my hands on one. If I'm wrong about the mags, please disregard my blabbering
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