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Old 11-28-2012, 04:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If it actually were to make a significant difference. I'd be all in as well.

I get where Doc is coming from as well. I think for the sake of keeping it only paintball, you should consider going full ABS plastic or something. Something that would hold up to use in paintball, but wouldn't fare so well if someone decided to strap it to the end of a real firearm.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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^It would likely work once, and that might be enough to get negative attention.
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Old 11-28-2012, 04:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but this kind of thing is treading on really thin ice. The "rain cover" subterfuge is paper thin, and will provide absolutely no legal protection if you attract the attention of some official type.

A company called BOA (Barrels of America, used to make brass marker barrels like J&J) got raided, their inventory, materials, tools and computers confiscated, and then hauled into court over this kind of thing.

Yes, people have gotten away with selling or trading single handmade units and a few of the remaining factory bits from back in the day, but I suspect that the moment somebody starts manufacturing them, they'll be made an example of.

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Its only an issue if they are readily adapted to firearms. As these will have barrel threading on them for .68 caliper barrels and will not readily slide over the barrel of most firearms it is not "readily" adapted depending on what that term means exactly.
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Its only an issue if they are readily adapted to firearms. As these will have barrel threading on them for .68 caliper barrels and will not readily slide over the barrel of most firearms it is not "readily" adapted depending on what that term means exactly.
That's not entirely correct, and is a very common misconception.

Take a look at the A5OG and X7OG forums for more extensive discussion and research on this topic. As much as I'd like one, Doc is right. There's a risk unless it's pre-approved by the BATF.
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^It would likely work once, and that might be enough to get negative attention.
As opposed to aluminum that might work more than once?
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That's not entirely correct, and is a very common misconception.

Take a look at the A5OG and X7OG forums for more extensive discussion and research on this topic. As much as I'd like one, Doc is right. There's a risk unless it's pre-approved by the BATF.
Preapproved?! Didn't anyone ever tell you that its easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission? lol
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As opposed to aluminum that might work more than once?
I am saying that the justification it " wouldn't fare so well if someone decided to strap it to the end of a real firearm" will probably not absolve you of the legal issues of making this. If it is capable of suppressing the report of a firearm even once, it may still cause you trouble.
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I am saying that the justification it " wouldn't fare so well if someone decided to strap it to the end of a real firearm" will probably not absolve you of the legal issues of making this. If it is capable of suppressing the report of a firearm even once, it may still cause you trouble.
I would say by that justification, every pillow in America is illegal.
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I hate to be a wet blanket, but this kind of thing is treading on really thin ice. The "rain cover" subterfuge is paper thin, and will provide absolutely no legal protection if you attract the attention of some official type.

A company called BOA (Barrels of America, used to make brass marker barrels like J&J) got raided, their inventory, materials, tools and computers confiscated, and then hauled into court over this kind of thing.

Yes, people have gotten away with selling or trading single handmade units and a few of the remaining factory bits from back in the day, but I suspect that the moment somebody starts manufacturing them, they'll be made an example of.

Fair warning.

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I've heard that the BATF (I think they changed their name lately) has become more sensible in such matters, but to rely on that is probably unwise. Even those comments were based upon particular agent comments; not just second or third hand, but the origin was an opinion of one agent out of many.

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You can be sensible and within your rights, but they can still turn you upside down to see if anything falls out. Sure it's rare, but like Doc says, you don't want that kind of attention. Mar is cheaper.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:13 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I have a flasc and to me it seems like a maufactured silencer.Everything unscrews,porting,room inside for some material.I have no idea whats up with that ??
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