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Old 08-05-2006, 08:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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just got a mag

so, i just picked up a mag off ebay to use as a woodsball gun for 75 +shipping (thought it was a good deal). classic valve, macro ftings, expansion chamber, and carbon fiber barrel. i tryed it out in a few speedball games today and i really love this thing. accurate, fast, silent, and no chops. just a few questions; i was told not to use co2 with automag valves but i should be able to with the classic valve, seeing as ow they were designed pre-compressed air, right? i also want to put a crosman stock on it, has anyone moded one of their stocks for anything but sheridan grips? if so how? fiberglass fill then drill new holes? anything else i should know about owning a mag?

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Old 08-05-2006, 09:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm glad you like your 'mag. CO2 is perfectly fine in Classic valves. Instead of a crossman stock, just get a normal bottomline stock.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The reason you've heard "Don't use CO2" is because the valve's o-rings will freeze up during rapid fire if you do not do a good job of keeping liquid co2 out. As long as you have a good expansion chamber you should be fine. An anti-siphon co2 tank wouldn't hurt either.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I owned a Classic Automag for several years, and always ran CO2 on it. If you are going to run the CO2 tank horizontal with an expansion chamber, I highly recommend an anti-siphoned tank. I ran like this and never had any problems. If you are really paranoid, you can run a Palmer Stabilizer instead of the expansion chamber, but this isn't really necessary. If you are going to run a vertical tank, do NOT use an anti-siphon tank as it will act as a siphon then. Also, use a lube like KC Trouble Free for CO2. Your o-rings won't be as likely to freeze up with it, and will stay looking brand new instead of turning yellow and getting brittle.
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Or you could eventially go to compressed air. Some of the smaller tanks are getting fairly cheap new. Seen new 47 ci tanks going for $50-60 and 72 ci PMI tanks for $80 new with tank cover. But C02 also works well with mags, you can anti siphon and expansion it or remote and expansion and either way will work great.
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thanks for the info. i already do have a hpa tank, but i'd rather use co2 for woods/recball because i get alot more shots out of a 20oz then my nitro tank. which is good if i'm miles from a fill station. although i am looking at getting a reg so i can switch to back and forth.

back2integrity, i saw your post on one of the wtb threads about the freak tip. what kind of barrel is that carbon-fiber one? i think it's the same one that came with mine. what's it worth?
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Honestly I would stay away from KC troublefree. It's been my experience that it has a tendancy to get gummy. Do yourself a favor and pick up some air tool oil from your local hardware store and use it liberally. A dry mag is an unhappy mag.

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Old 08-09-2006, 06:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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love my mags, make sure you have a good expenasion chamber for that c02
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think your sig neglects your D-mag and X-Mag Rudz. (m-a-r-k-7 for other forums).


I have a minimag, and run it with co2 and no a/s. I'm also pretty sure what I think is an expansion chamber is just a jas thru.... but it works fine. Unelss my idiot friends decideds to take it and shoot a few hundred shots at the ground, freezing a lot of valve o-rings.
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Honestly I would stay away from KC troublefree.
Odd, never had problems with it. Kept my o-rings fresh. Oh well.
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