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Old 02-25-2013, 02:52 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Jerry, fair point. There has to be a connection, though. I am thinking specifically of the early 90's, when every pro team had mags or cockers; even more specifically of a video Bacci recently posted from when tournaments were still held in the woods.

But yes, on second thought the arms race was likely to occur with or without tournaments.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:11 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Our sport is not dying. Atleast not in Ohio. The field I frequent serves about 500 a weekend if not more.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:57 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Yeah originally the tournaments were in the woods....but back then trying to film them and such did not make it too interesting for the viewer. With today's technology however, a woodsball game could be much more exciting even on TV. And with leagues such as the UWL and such, I think it would be great to see more on ESPN 1000 even

But I think in order for that sort of thing to take place and that sort of visibility into the game it has to undergo a little bit of sportification if you will. That does not mandate changing how you go out and play on the weekend, but the appearance of the game to the casual peruser.

Just scan some of the forums even here talking about the game. It is inevitable that you will encounter a heavy dose of "cheaters", "wipers","overshootering", etc. That is not to say we don't talk about it....but because this is so prevalent in the game today...and sorry, but it is is all styles of play and it is not just because of tournaments, cheaters are cheaters no matter what style they play. But because it is so invasive it is often times new players get turned off of the game their first experience because they have encountered this.

Pirhana it sounds like you have a great field in the area that probably does a great job of addressing these sorts of issues when they come up. And they actively seek to ensure that this is not the mainstream mentality at their field. But I can say me personally have played in 3 different states as a rec player and more often than not you can see the new players that are getting let down because field operators are not as interested in the experience their customers are having.

I know I am not trying to say that the game is dieing, but I know in the past couple of years I have been to the field on some beautiful days and sat and just talked to the owner/operator/refs because no one else showed up. More than once my "group" of 4-6 players were the only ones on the field (which I am not denying was nice ).

I think the game is in need of an image reinvention. I am glad to see PB more and more in various outlets....I mean Big Bang Theory has the cast playing a good bit. Myth Busters has done specials....you see the sport on the fringes like that and I think it is great...but that only peaks an interest in some folks and then they start to google a little bit and maybe youtube some game and watch the tournaments and get scared, or they venture out to the field and get peppered and treated like scum because they are not on a team, does anyone think that person will ever recommend playing paintball to anyone?
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:42 PM   #134 (permalink)
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In any "action" sport, the key is good marketing and exposure, if you can capture guys having a blast on the field in a way that others can watch and say "I could do that". That is how you get people into the sport/game.

I still say if you had a ton of guys making GOOD video where people could follow along the game, and actually SEE who they were shooting at... That would get new players to try the sport. JJRon got all those views on his video because people could SEE the guys getting hit...


And with cameras getting smaller, and better, it is just a matter of time before they add zoom to action cams. THEN you will get stuff like this, where people can follow along the game, AND see the hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edv3uFO2_A4
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:34 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Brother Jerry is right regarding the arms race starting long before sport paintball. I don't however accept the claim that the sport side brought cheaper paint, markers or greater marker diversity. Sales volume brought lower prices and sport paintball begat double triggers on everything and tournament regulation standardization which is less diversity any way you slice it.

Regarding the cheating, it goes to incentive. In a game of honor amongst friends there is little incentive to cheat and much to not cheat. The very opposite is true in sport. The incentive to cheat is particularly potent in sport with cash purses, sponsorship and publicity. You can debate that all you want but you know I'm right.

I tend to call myself out on a hit that doesn't break when I play. If I'm hit and the ball didn't break I can exploit the technicality and stay in the game or I can congratulate the other player on a nice shot and leave the field. I know which is the right thing to do... Unless there's money and fame at stake.
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