mcarterbrown.com

mcarterbrown.com (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/)
-   The Dead Zone (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/dead-zone/)
-   -   (Updated Rebuilding Progress) Mark V 50 Repeating Pistol Found! (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/dead-zone/229793-updated-rebuilding-progress-mark-v-50-repeating-pistol-found.html)

acrewofone 03-26-2013 09:46 AM

(Updated Rebuilding Progress) Mark V 50 Repeating Pistol Found!
 
Back in late 2011, I had posted about the .50 Caliber Mark V 50 Repeating Pistol (.50 Caliber Paintball Revolver) used as rental guns at Joe Survival Field in Canada, in the early 80s.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/d...ng-pistol.html

I have been searching since then trying to find one, and lo and behold, I found 2 in the same week!

Member wild_windy contacted me about rebuilding a pistol he thought might be a Crosman 3357. He sent me pictures and I recognized it as a Mark V 50 Repeating Pistol, long barreled version. I ended up trading him a rebuilt 3357 package for it.

Within the same week a member of TechPB contacted me, wanting to know what this airgun pistol was that he had purchased at a yard sale. Pictures he sent me show it to also be a Mark V 50 Repeating Pistol, shorter barreled version. I ended up purchasing the gun from him for a good price.

Through searching and having one pistol in my possession (still waiting for wild_windy to send), I find them to be modified versions of the Crosman Model 38 .22 Caliber Pellet Revolver (wild_windys formerly being a 38T - [target] with the longer barrel, and TechPBs being a 38C - [combat] with the shorter barrel). The .22 caliber version of the Model 38 was converted, instead of the .177 caliber version, as the .22 caliber version has a larger valve.

Here is a picture of a Crosman 38T, and pictures of the Mark V50s (the one from wild_windy is in rough shape). You can see where they majorly cut out the ball ramp where you pulled back a small slide to insert a pellet (even cutting deep into the valve body itself). They also cut out a large portion of the frame, to insert the custom made large paintball cylinder, and set up a cylinder detent system, screwed into the body from the bottom. They also removed the barrel insert and drilled out the barrel housing to .50 caliber size. The cylinders do not detach, so you have to turn the cylinder and insert the paintballs one at a time (same way you had to do when they were pellet guns). These guns are really heavy and have a very heavy trigger pull (the 38T was so much like a real 38 and so realistic, the Air Force used them for combat training in the late 70s).

I've already ordered 2 valve rebuild kits and will completely rebuild/restore both pistols.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps30e8cba5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps475f0eff.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psfcb34eac.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pse590aec2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psa36832da.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps3d704543.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...pscfb4a83e.jpg

Shane-O 03-26-2013 10:42 AM

Very, very cool!

Phoenix01 03-26-2013 01:09 PM

That 38C is really sharp with the wood grips. I keep my eyes open at yard/garage sales but the closest I have come to these pistols is a 357 pellet pistol at my Grandma's house.

THE-SHOOTIST 03-26-2013 10:41 PM

This needs to be "VintageREX'ed"............................... ..
It's important history.

Bored383 03-26-2013 10:57 PM

whoah - that is very cool!

ApoC_101 03-26-2013 11:03 PM

super cool.

acrewofone 03-27-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE-SHOOTIST (Post 2666206)
This needs to be "VintageREX'ed"............................... ..
It's important history.

Agreed, will do that when I get them rebuilt and have better pictures.

Though I don't know what to list as the manufacturer, Model 38 was made by Crosman, but who did the conversion, maybe "Joe Survival Field"?

I really like the way they feel, much shorter than a 3357, but much heavier and solid feeling.

I'll have to check out the accuracy and distance compared to a 3357, the Mark V50 has shorter barrels and a whole different set of gaps for the CO2 to escape.

I will post some pictures compared to a 3357 when they are all clean and rebuilt.

Axel 03-27-2013 11:22 AM

I do enjoy your write-ups on .50 revolvers. You are the guy on MCB for anything 3357.

Out of curiosity, how did you get so interested in these in the first place? It's a very specific and fairly obscure little niche.

acrewofone 03-27-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel (Post 2666512)
I do enjoy your write-ups on .50 revolvers. You are the guy on MCB for anything 3357.

Out of curiosity, how did you get so interested in these in the first place? It's a very specific and fairly obscure little niche.

Aways back, I was wondering if there was any other .50 caliber revolvers out there, which were designed different than the 3357. Doing a search for "paintball 50 caliber revolver" sent me to that link I first posted for the field in Canada. That got me curious as to what happened to all those Mark V50 rental guns, and had me wanting to get one, being as they would be very rare and unique.

HP_Lovecraft 03-27-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acrewofone (Post 2666625)
Aways back, I was wondering if there was any other .50 caliber revolvers out there, .

I remember hearing that there was a "rifle" version of the 3357 back in the day, but I've never seen one. Basically a long barrel, and the crossmans-style shoudler stock.

I don't know if it was a rare factory version, or an aftermaket thing. APG and Paintcheck were full of similar upgrades for nelsons and sheridans. Could also be vaporware.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO
© MCB Network LLC