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Old 08-08-2006, 01:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Vforce's as backbottle goggles?

Since my JT Spectra's have given up the ghost, I'm in the market for a new goggle system.

Right now I'm looking for a good goggle to use with backbottle guns and because of JT's Flex goggles' ability to flex close to your face so you can get down and look over a stocked or backbottle'd gun I'm leaning towards them. The only problem is that I'd rather not support K-2 after their lawsuit spree against CCM and Action Markers.

My question here is, are Vforce Profilers or any of their other goggles flexible enough to be used on a stocked gun?

*edit* I fogot to mention the Vents Avatars. How are they as a flexible mask?
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The profilers are definitley not flexible enough. However the Events or Avatar would be fine.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Morphs are very flexible and work well with KP's.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep, Morphs are very flexible, never tried them with a backbottle but they should work.
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Old 08-08-2006, 06:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Imho, VForce goggles are defectively designed.
Played with these for a while and finally became frustrated with the hits I tool right at the point where the lense met the mask.

I routinely received paint splatter on my face through those spots. That just isn't right. Not that dangerous maybe, but I expect my goggles to keep paint out of my eyes period.

I love my Spectra Flex-7 IZE goggs.

So much that I have been stocking up.

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Old 08-08-2006, 08:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Morphs would certainly work for you. They're flexy-flexy. I have a pair in the gearbox that I never use because I don't like getting hit in the face.

How much do you play Drum? I'm really interested in how often you've gotten splash inside the mask. My whole team pretty much runs VForce products and we've never had such an incident that I recall. Clearly you've had a different experience and I'm interested as to what might be the cause.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I played with my VForce Morph's pretty often, perhaps twice a month and I was splashed several times.

Maybe I take a lot of head shots or something, but whenever a ball impacted at the junction between the lense and the mask, I would get spritzed. Like I said, nothing too dangerous about some paint droplets on your cheek or eyelashes, but it was sort of a principle dealio.

I do not fully trust any mask without a gasket seal of some sort around the lenses. Sure it is a pita to change, but I think it probably should be.

Maybe I lead with my head too often, but I do take a lot shots to the lenses and masks. I always have, except back in the shop goggle days. For some reason, I never got hit in the face until after we started wearing JT Snappers. Go figure.

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I wonder if there's any correlation between the splashing and the Morph model. All of us use the hard "Shield" model, and just don't have the same trouble at all. Maybe the Morph is flexy enough to allow the squirt whereas the Shield is not.
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Old 08-08-2006, 09:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I doubt that was it, as this mask I had (might not have been a "Morph"... I can't recall.) was pretty inflexible. Sort of a hard green plastic.

I gave the mask to Al, who likes them alot, so he could probably tell you exactly which model it is.

I did change lenses a few times and found it to be true throughout.

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Old 08-08-2006, 01:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I own profilers and have never had that problem, although I have had bits of shell get trapped between the lense and the mask frame. The Vents are a nice mask, but they are a bit short, your chin may be exposed. The Dye invisons are very flexible. I use my profilers with my Hurricane with no problems, nor with any of the other stocked guns I have owned.
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