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Old 04-21-2017, 09:52 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Where did you get this 11lb spring if I may ask? This has me curious as I hate having to hold the pump handle forward.
I'm pretty sure it was McMaster-Carr. Also, they had a minimum order of $90 and they don't ship to Canada so I had a member on here act as my third party.

With the $90 order I got around 9 or 10 springs of varying strength. The site also had all the specs which was very helpful ie standard length, compressed length, diameter and so on. I used my dial caliper to see how deep the hole was on the pump handle and then measured the pump stroke from fully closed to fully open to see how long the compressed length had to be. Also had to make sure the spring would actually fit in the pump handle.

I started with the softer springs and kept swapping up until I got to 11lbs. This was the only weight that I felt confident using that would keep the pump handle pushed securely forward. When I pump this thing I gotta WANT that ball in the chamber lol. But trading the speed and smoothness for a pump that stays securely cocked is worth it imo. I would love it if this was a factory option from CCM.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:06 AM   #72 (permalink)
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My favourite is my CCM S6. I recently took time off from playing and it sat in a bag in my garage for 3 years, I pulled it out, gassed it up, and wham bam it's as good as ever.

Truthfully, it cost a fortune. I really like the zen of building up a partsbox sniper but they never quite achieve the level of completion of the CCM.
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Truthfully, it cost a fortune. I really like the zen of building up a partsbox sniper but they never quite achieve the level of completion of the CCM.
100% agree. I love my piece-by-piece cocker, but the CCM is a whole different animal.
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:23 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Phantoms are the best gun ever.

The problem is that m16 frame has really goofy ergonomics with a .45 block you can just look at the way the hogue grips fit to see.

Then look at a lapco and see how it has a rail and a normal designed frame with a normal relationship between th web of the thumb and the trigger finger.

Still their design is just killer. Those stainless threaded inserts and overall quality control is second to none . Such an amazing company.
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I felt the same way about the Phantom. There was just something off about it.
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Phantoms are the best gun ever.

The problem is that m16 frame has really goofy ergonomics with a .45 block you can just look at the way the hogue grips fit to see.

Then look at a lapco and see how it has a rail and a normal designed frame with a normal relationship between th web of the thumb and the trigger finger.

Still their design is just killer. Those stainless threaded inserts and overall quality control is second to none . Such an amazing company.
I agree. My pump adventure started with a VSC Phantom. I was pretty decent with it. Muscle memory was great and pulled some very memorable shots with it. Now after shooting cockers/snipers for so many years, I pickup a Phantom expecting the old experience, only to be disappointed. Not in the CCI quality, but my ability to hit anything with it. Single tube vs stacked tube hasn't really bothered me (Shoot a Mag just as well as a Cocker) so I'm guess it's that the Phantom is lacking the weight I'm now use to.

Mike @ CCI is 2nd to none. I just cannot shoot and hit the broad side of a barn anymore.

EDIT: And I've owned/shot some nice Phantoms. Excuse the Nation link... http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3929174
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Throw a stainless barrel on there.
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out of all the pumps I have sho;t it is the MVP that is close to perfect. I want an MVP that has a duck slide and can be converted back to open class; then it would be perfect.
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crazy how different tastes can be. I pick up a phantom and it just feels like home. Love the lightweight compact feel.
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CCM S6, go to since 2009...shot an MVP recently, compared to a S6, trigger pull, pretty even, maybe a slight edge to the MVP, both point well, pump stroke, S6 10/10, MVP 7/10...seriously disappointed by the MVP pump stroke...close to perfection, then the pump stoke (not as smooth as a CCM and the pump handle is too small)....I used to want an MVP, there was a cool one for sale locally, gold with blue splash, factory anno...kicked myself later for not buying it...no more. I do like how the MVP has a sealed bolt.
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CCM S6, go to since 2009...shot an MVP recently, compared to a S6, trigger pull, pretty even, maybe a slight edge to the MVP, both point well, pump stroke, S6 10/10, MVP 7/10...seriously disappointed by the MVP pump stroke...close to perfection, then the pump stoke (not as smooth as a CCM and the pump handle is too small)....I used to want an MVP, there was a cool one for sale locally, gold with blue splash, factory anno...kicked myself later for not buying it...no more. I do like how the MVP has a sealed bolt.
Fully understand and has to do why I'm playing around with spring combos. Think I can get the pump stroke similar to an S6/6.5.

However, use that stock MVP in a game. Can almost guarantee you'll. Or notice the stock pump stroke. For me, nothing points as naturally as an MVP.
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