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Old 07-12-2017, 07:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cci drop out changer or bucket changer?

Howdy y'all, I've been using my CCI phantom for about 10 years now and am working on starting up in stock class. I was wondering with a 15 round tube what y'all prefer or would recommend for a 12 gram system. I have a vertical air adapter kit and a rear ASA. I have been debating getting a drop out changer or a bucket changer for stock class in but im not sure which one to go with.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you have the money this is hands down the way to go.
ICD Indian Creek Design 12 Gram ASA Lever Changer - Black

But between the two choices you are looking at I prefer the bucket over the drop out. I find it to be more reliable and faster. Its all preference really.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow that is really nice, quite a bit out of the budget though.
Maybe if I could find one used... but I imagine even then it would be pricy


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ICD Indian Creek Design 12 Gram ASA Lever Changer - Black

But between the two choices you are looking at I prefer the bucket over the drop out. I find it to be more reliable and faster. Its all preference really.
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Wow that is really nice, quite a bit out of the budget though.
Maybe if I could find one used... but I imagine even then it would be pricy
It's a new product about a year old. I have only seen 2 go used over that span. People tend to hold on them when they get them (It's a great product). They sold very quickly and were not much less then you could buy one new for. Definitely the fastest most reliable 12g change out I have found. The Lever Changers are equipped with a Self-Adjusting piercer that will feed any kind of 12g. I love mine. I got the stock adapter as well but I don't use it on my phantom. I like to run it on the Vertical ASA on my phantom.
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I've got a lever changer listed that works quite well. My preference is a bucket changer though. I like being able to slowly vent the last bit of co2 quietly.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I prefer a bucket changer on a vertical ASA for stock class. A few might argue that a drop out is not a true stock class because the 12 gram does not "fall through the threads" as with a bucket changer or on a PGP. To me, that rule does not matter much. As long as you are out on the field having a great time.

As noted above, it is a matter of preference. Playing with a horizontal feed Phantom and a 3.5oz tank instead of 12 grams would be a way to ease into playing stock class.

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I prefer a bucket changer on a vertical ASA for stock class. A few might argue that a drop out is not a true stock class because the 12 gram does not "fall through the threads" as with a bucket changer or on a PGP.

As noted above, it is a matter of preference.
My taint itches evertime someone tries force some strange rule about stock class. 12ies and 10 round tubes are plenty. If someone figures out a slightly different way to mix the two, more power to them.
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Old 07-12-2017, 08:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Bucket change is faster in my opinion. If I remember right, the dropout takes a couple of twists. I do like the look of the drop out though. I wish someone made a short, straight valve body for the ICD changer.
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I like the vert asa bucket changer for ease of operation. Keep the fresh 12's on my belt next to the dump pouch. Twist, dump, load, twist.
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Something like a lever changer really does go beyond stock class. Drop outs are supposed to be faster but on the case of the cci drop out, it isn't. I really like the clean lines of the cci drop out and it is a very efgicientkw volume set up. The bucket is a lot easier to change though.
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