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Old 08-29-2017, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Autococker bolt pins!? interest thread

Was looking to tap into the CC community for some ideas on this, but it's like their site goes down every time i try to post the thread so i'll try there later. I can't say I see much demand for it, but I wanted to do a small run of some cheap bolt pins to get some dealer experience. Couple questions. Feel free to answer some one or all questions:

1) Is there anything you've wanted in an ideal pin? (side or top cocking)
2) Would you consider low-profile or near flush with the body to be desirable?
3) I want to eventually offer a large selection of colors, but start out with black, silver, maybe brass (color), should I consider something else in the starter batches? Maybe transparent material? (these are probably going to be some kind of durable plastic)
4) The projected price-point for the final product will be +/-$5 including shipping, in case you were curious.
5) Is the mild protrusion of most pins on the other side of the back block something that is desired? I was thinking of eliminating it, but maybe not since a smaller pin might be harder to take out and could use some extra material to push on from the other end.


I 3d printed a couple prototypes with a super-close profile and tried to do a comparison:
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I like it. Some people may not because it is no longer tool free removal. An Allen wrench or twig would work fine. I would love a super flush fit bolt pin.
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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hmm, well i can definitely get my nail under it and pull it out, but perhaps i could make the edge slightly more pronounced so that it doesn't become a hassle. I'm gonna try a different filament reorient it to get a smoother finish on the side that you see when it's in the backblock.

more pics on the way. I'm trying to think of a poll i could add to this thread.
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I really like it, as long as it was plastic or derlin as im looking to ditch all my metal bolt/back block/pin parts
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If I chop a ball it's not like I'm realistically going to sit out on the field and try to unjam the bolt. So I don't really see a need to remove the bolt quickly in a game. This seems good.
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Old 09-01-2017, 09:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Good work. Eager to see your progress and future project!
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Old 09-02-2017, 01:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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If I chop a ball it's not like I'm realistically going to sit out on the field and try to unjam the bolt. So I don't really see a need to remove the bolt quickly in a game. This seems good.
I disagree. Easiest way to clean a 'cocker after a chop is to pull the bolt and run a squeegee through the entire top tube. I love low-profile, but I'd personally want something I could confidently grab and pull on the field.

Could you radius the other end and have the radius protrude from the other side of the block? That way you can press the radiused end, and make removing the pin a little easier. Especially for glove wearers. It should still look super low-pro.
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Magoo is right it should poke out the far side so it can be pressed...

Look at ccm bolt pins. They are low profile and no one complains.
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Old 09-09-2017, 12:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I like it and I also agree with magoo.

And yeah, clear would be bad-a$$.

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Old 09-17-2017, 11:28 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Latest prototype work. Made some changes:
- widened the flange area a little more
- rounded the other end
- which protrudes about 2mm

So! Who wants to be on the testing team? I'll send you a pin, you try it out and post any feedback you'd like here along with some pics of it installed on your setup.

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