for the Collectors, hoarders and whores; what's your rules?

wolf13 · 01-23-2008, 12:22 PM

Painthappy's hoarding post got me thinking. I personaly have a set of rules (guidelines) that although unwritten (til now), I try to live by when gun buying, and I was kind of curious what other people had for self imposed rules. Now, I have very specific set of tastes so I immediatly elminate 99.99% of the guns out there instantly and my rules result from that.

Mine:
1. Am I going to use it? (that right there elminates most electro's and hinge framed cockers)
2. If i am not going to use it, is there any real reason to buy it? (i've bought too many i am not going to use, and thats why i've really started to stick to this one, I almost always sell these otherwise. theres a few exceptions, but not many)
3. Do i already have one? If so, do I really need another one? (not many meet this requirement, and usually it comes down to cosmetic differnces so I end up placing far less priority on a secound one)
4. Why do I want it? does it just look cool, or is there an interesting history or feature? (looking cool counts for a whole lot less then other factors, and if the only answer is looks nice, I might still pursue it, but I really try to stick to bargain hunting at that point)
5. is it original or has it been rebuilt, replaced or otherwise altered if the original was what was of value to me?
6. if yes, is it worth restoring, or is the value to me mostly in the original mechanics? (this is usually a killer for me, I started collecting to try out guns. Since I am buying used, I have to allow a certain leeway, but the less leeway I allow the better the results I find. I actually prefer to buy from the clueless rather then the tinkerer)
7. how good is the condition, any damage (eye holes are damage and almost always eliminate the gun from consideration)?
8. is it a good example of its kind? (If i know I will have a chance at a nicer one, i'll usually pass up a plain or less desirable marker now. I've violated this a couple of times, and I end up looking for nicer examples, It is a collection afterall; but I then end up going back to rule 3 and start bargain hunting rather then seriously pursuing).
9. Is it worth the risk? (this comes down to seller feedback, payment method, price, all that, if its high dollars and I don't trust the seller, then its 3rd party time if i even try to do a deal)

WilD · 01-23-2008, 12:26 PM

Your rules resemble my thought process pretty well when I'm being rational. However, most of my purchases are highly impulsive so I can't say I have a defined set of rules or a standard process.

I usually try to rationalize why I want something and if there is any need for it. The answer is usually either "looks cool" or "wanted one when I was younger" in the first case. The need question is typically, no, I don't need it. I often buy anyway.

Edit: My interest is primarily limited to Sheridan derivatives, so I'm usually after those kind of markers. Nelsons generally don't interest me much.

Jesterbuilt · 01-23-2008, 12:28 PM

I used to buy whatever hit my fancy. Alot of things that I wanted 15-20 years ago that I could not afford. Unique, cool. Then I realized that I never played with any of them.
Now my whoreing is pretty limited to WGP/Bud Orr, Lada/Arrow Precision, Lapco.

Listessa · 01-23-2008, 01:30 PM

For this I play the female card.
Do I have the whim to purchase it?
Can I afford it?
Will I use it? In the mean time will it fit the decour?

Drum · 01-23-2008, 01:48 PM

One simple rule;

If I have to think about it first, then I can't afford it.

Easy!

D

Christian Nelson · 01-23-2008, 01:52 PM

Will my wife draw and quarter me, then string me up, or will she just shoot me when she finds out?

Actually, I get worse than that, the look of "you know you don't need it, there's no room for it, you won't use it, and it cost more than it should have" without her needing to say or do anything..

Worst thing about it, she's right..

Azzy · 01-23-2008, 02:18 PM

Will it get used, do I have the cash, how odd is it....

CrazyBoy78 · 01-23-2008, 02:31 PM

I don't buy wall-hangers. If it's too pretty to use, then I pass. I use every one of my markers.

Chappy · 01-23-2008, 02:33 PM

Like most, I have a huge list of stuff I'd like to own. And for a while I bought anything from that list that was a great deal. Then I ended up going from 2 to 22 guns in the span of about 8 months...
So for the time being, I'm only working on my Montneel collection. I'm currently at the point with it that the more rare stuff that I don't have is all that I'm looking at, so its been easy to abstain. But when my collection is "complete", and/or I come up with more disposable income, I'll probably have to come up with some new rules...

incynr8 · 01-23-2008, 02:52 PM

two rules:

Binge
and
Purge

01-23-2008, 12:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
wolf13 MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006	for the Collectors, hoarders and whores; what's your rules? Painthappy's hoarding post got me thinking. I personaly have a set of rules (guidelines) that although unwritten (til now), I try to live by when gun buying, and I was kind of curious what other people had for self imposed rules. Now, I have very specific set of tastes so I immediatly elminate 99.99% of the guns out there instantly and my rules result from that. Mine: 1. Am I going to use it? (that right there elminates most electro's and hinge framed cockers) 2. If i am not going to use it, is there any real reason to buy it? (i've bought too many i am not going to use, and thats why i've really started to stick to this one, I almost always sell these otherwise. theres a few exceptions, but not many) 3. Do i already have one? If so, do I really need another one? (not many meet this requirement, and usually it comes down to cosmetic differnces so I end up placing far less priority on a secound one) 4. Why do I want it? does it just look cool, or is there an interesting history or feature? (looking cool counts for a whole lot less then other factors, and if the only answer is looks nice, I might still pursue it, but I really try to stick to bargain hunting at that point) 5. is it original or has it been rebuilt, replaced or otherwise altered if the original was what was of value to me? 6. if yes, is it worth restoring, or is the value to me mostly in the original mechanics? (this is usually a killer for me, I started collecting to try out guns. Since I am buying used, I have to allow a certain leeway, but the less leeway I allow the better the results I find. I actually prefer to buy from the clueless rather then the tinkerer) 7. how good is the condition, any damage (eye holes are damage and almost always eliminate the gun from consideration)? 8. is it a good example of its kind? (If i know I will have a chance at a nicer one, i'll usually pass up a plain or less desirable marker now. I've violated this a couple of times, and I end up looking for nicer examples, It is a collection afterall; but I then end up going back to rule 3 and start bargain hunting rather then seriously pursuing). 9. Is it worth the risk? (this comes down to seller feedback, payment method, price, all that, if its high dollars and I don't trust the seller, then its 3rd party time if i even try to do a deal) __________________ looking for interesting cockers. especially AKA Black Widow, Slide trigger bonebrake, predators and other nice customs as well as perhaps an eclipse sovereign. CustomCockers.com Forum for Sniper 1's to MQ and anything autococking welcome. Pics of some of My Collection of 50+ rare and oddball cockers and other oddities

01-23-2008, 12:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
WilD the MilD MOD Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Motor City	Your rules resemble my thought process pretty well when I'm being rational. However, most of my purchases are highly impulsive so I can't say I have a defined set of rules or a standard process. I usually try to rationalize why I want something and if there is any need for it. The answer is usually either "looks cool" or "wanted one when I was younger" in the first case. The need question is typically, no, I don't need it. I often buy anyway. Edit: My interest is primarily limited to Sheridan derivatives, so I'm usually after those kind of markers. Nelsons generally don't interest me much. __________________ PGPOG #79 POG #1055 My Feedback

01-23-2008, 12:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jesterbuilt WGP whore Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Everett, WA.	I used to buy whatever hit my fancy. Alot of things that I wanted 15-20 years ago that I could not afford. Unique, cool. Then I realized that I never played with any of them. Now my whoreing is pretty limited to WGP/Bud Orr, Lada/Arrow Precision, Lapco. __________________ Boy, the next words out of your mouth better be some brilliant Mark Twain S**t. Cuz it's definately gettin chisled on your tombstone. Had it been a blind body and not blue I would of jumped on it like an eithiopian on a steak dinner. My Ex-Wife is ungrateful She Never Used the Wedding present I bought her......A COFFIN http://www.myspace.com/baconfiend http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...ht=jesterbuilt

01-23-2008, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Listessa Delving into Satinism Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fairbanks, AK	For this I play the female card. Do I have the whim to purchase it? Can I afford it? Will I use it? In the mean time will it fit the decour? __________________ The correct question is, "Why don't I need another gun?" How strange to see a lagomorph of such bravery. Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo- Don't Ask Us- We Will Tell! Facilis est Descensus Averni. <--Click to descend to my feedback. NO'MAAM #2"National Organization Members Against AGG Metrosexuals" Rouge Cell #3

01-23-2008, 01:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Christian Nelson MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wisconsin	Will my wife draw and quarter me, then string me up, or will she just shoot me when she finds out? Actually, I get worse than that, the look of "you know you don't need it, there's no room for it, you won't use it, and it cost more than it should have" without her needing to say or do anything.. Worst thing about it, she's right.. __________________ The greatest want of the world is the want of men- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by it's right name, men who's concience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.

01-23-2008, 02:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Azzy Mod-O-Rator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Finleyville, PA	Will it get used, do I have the cash, how odd is it.... __________________ Bryan "Azzy" Spiegel Riverside Renegade Paintball / C.C. S.V.S. Plankowner - LPPC#6 "It is my right to be uncommon—if I can. I seek opportunity—not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, “This I have done.” - Dean Alfange

01-23-2008, 02:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chappy All Hail King Skippy!! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phillipsburg, NJ	Like most, I have a huge list of stuff I'd like to own. And for a while I bought anything from that list that was a great deal. Then I ended up going from 2 to 22 guns in the span of about 8 months... So for the time being, I'm only working on my Montneel collection. I'm currently at the point with it that the more rare stuff that I don't have is all that I'm looking at, so its been easy to abstain. But when my collection is "complete", and/or I come up with more disposable income, I'll probably have to come up with some new rules... __________________ My Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/s...3932#post13932 "They wouldn't pay me more to bury you rich than to bury you poor." Soundgarden

01-23-2008, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
incynr8 .:\|Purification Admin\|:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA	two rules: Binge and Purge __________________ Advertise on MCB That's two-ing thirteen while she's eleven-ing your five........ PPS4LIFE "If a man neglects to enforce his rights, he cannot complain if, after a while, the law follows his example."

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