Procarbine or prolite? - Page 2

Rap4paintball · 09-03-2006, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightmare96

Id go prolite, the grip is better imho and actually the valve may not be as efficient, but it runs on liquid better. A great winter gun. Just put a siphon tube in your tank for the summer, and you are set.

100% agreed. Pro-lites run amazing on liquid or gasous CO2. I have never had a problem with one of mine. The valve is durable, but just not as efficent. Parts can be bought at http://www.doropaintball.com/AB10381...+Factory+Parts or http://www.tippmannparts.com/index.c...&categoryID=40

Plus i think the Pro-carbines feel plasticy

Emerald Wolf · 09-04-2006, 12:01 AM

Don't they still make the Carbine? It seems that I've seen a bunch around that were NIB...

Catchya on the Flip Side.....

Emerald Wolf -- Has a Prolite with a slight leak....

Rap4paintball · 09-04-2006, 12:24 AM

The carbines are not being made anymore, but there are still alot NIB. Pm me on the leaky Pro-lite.

Pickle · 09-04-2006, 03:22 PM

The pro carbines are made but not for comercial use. They are only made for Pepperball Technologies. I too would recommend the PC. For Tippy parts I would suggest http://www.tippmannparts.com

Al Ray · 09-04-2006, 06:38 PM

Id recoment the pro-lite or even the pro Am over the procarbine. If your luck enought to find a MIni-LIte Then I would pic it up. The 68 Carbine and Pro Carbine use a valve that although is more efficient is more prone to falure. The most common failure with 68car procar valve is that rather than the gas line threading into the valve they used a flare fitting and oring. The Oring is what fails ( Ihave has success replacing the oring with 12 gram seals) The PC PA FA and Mini use a valve simmilar to that of the SMG and Specials, in that there are two cup seals (same as SMG cup seals IIRC) and a spring between them. The PA used a longer valve than the PC IIRC. I'll post some pictures this evining.

Al Ray · 09-05-2006, 01:14 PM

No pics yet,sorry. hopfully I'll have them up today.

PaintedRat · 09-05-2006, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightmare96

Id go prolite, the grip is better imho...

It took me about $3 in hardware store parts and some macro line to put a prolite grip on my procarbine. I just put the original grip back on to have a Tippmann R/T trigger installed.

AGDRetro · 09-05-2006, 07:14 PM

I'm partial to the Pro-Carbine, but then I prefer the 45 grip too. A field I use to ref for has had the same Pro-Lites for what has gotta be close to 10 years. The only problems that commonly came up were wrecked sear springs and ball detents. Now keep in mind these were used every weekend, Saturday AND Sunday, for years, but they still perform great!

Just another idea though, an ACI F4 Illustrator. I picked one up for $26 last week on eBay. It came today in great shape, just needed to be cleaned and included the original box & manual! Looks like new, shoots just fine! I've had zero trouble with ACI guns in the cold...

Al Ray · 09-06-2006, 04:07 PM

You got that backwards, 68 Carbines and Pro-Carbines have the 45 grip. Pro-lites, and Mini-lites use the funky grip with the ASA built in. The Pro-Am uses the same shaped grip as the Pro-lite but its Pot metal (so is the fore grip) and the ASA is different (same location). PLus the Pro Am grip does not split in half like all the other Grips, you have to drive the pins out the side. Also the Pro-Ams grip is not as meaty around the sear pin (as it need not be becuase its metal) thus to fit a Pro-lite frame on a Pro-Am (done to reduce weight) or a Pro-Carbine/68 Carbine frame on a Pro-Am, The Pro-Ams body needs to be milled just slightely. Still no pictures yet, been busy as of late. I think I'll just put together a Tippmann "pro" series Identification chart/parts interchange list. (providing I have the time)

Al Ray · 09-06-2006, 04:09 PM

Oh the Pro-Am grip also uses pull pins rather than the 10/32 allen bolts. IIRC the pro-lite uses inserts where as later Pro series markers were tapped. Will check on that.

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AGDRetro MCB Supporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lancaster, PA Posts: 402	I'm partial to the Pro-Carbine, but then I prefer the 45 grip too. A field I use to ref for has had the same Pro-Lites for what has gotta be close to 10 years. The only problems that commonly came up were wrecked sear springs and ball detents. Now keep in mind these were used every weekend, Saturday AND Sunday, for years, but they still perform great! Just another idea though, an ACI F4 Illustrator. I picked one up for $26 last week on eBay. It came today in great shape, just needed to be cleaned and included the original box & manual! Looks like new, shoots just fine! I've had zero trouble with ACI guns in the cold... __________________ Steve Shuey \| Teams Crimson Reign & Amish Mafia\| AGD Enthusiast MCB Feedback \| AO Feedback

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09-04-2006, 12:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
Emerald Wolf Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denver, Colo. Posts: 422	Don't they still make the Carbine? It seems that I've seen a bunch around that were NIB... Catchya on the Flip Side..... Emerald Wolf -- Has a Prolite with a slight leak....

09-04-2006, 03:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
Pickle Carrier of the Big Stick Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Land of Fruits and Nuts Posts: 557	The pro carbines are made but not for comercial use. They are only made for Pepperball Technologies. I too would recommend the PC. For Tippy parts I would suggest http://www.tippmannparts.com

09-04-2006, 06:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
Al Ray GWC Lifetime Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 2,314	Id recoment the pro-lite or even the pro Am over the procarbine. If your luck enought to find a MIni-LIte Then I would pic it up. The 68 Carbine and Pro Carbine use a valve that although is more efficient is more prone to falure. The most common failure with 68car procar valve is that rather than the gas line threading into the valve they used a flare fitting and oring. The Oring is what fails ( Ihave has success replacing the oring with 12 gram seals) The PC PA FA and Mini use a valve simmilar to that of the SMG and Specials, in that there are two cup seals (same as SMG cup seals IIRC) and a spring between them. The PA used a longer valve than the PC IIRC. I'll post some pictures this evining.

09-05-2006, 01:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Al Ray GWC Lifetime Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 2,314	No pics yet,sorry. hopfully I'll have them up today.

09-06-2006, 04:07 PM	#19 (permalink)
Al Ray GWC Lifetime Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 2,314	You got that backwards, 68 Carbines and Pro-Carbines have the 45 grip. Pro-lites, and Mini-lites use the funky grip with the ASA built in. The Pro-Am uses the same shaped grip as the Pro-lite but its Pot metal (so is the fore grip) and the ASA is different (same location). PLus the Pro Am grip does not split in half like all the other Grips, you have to drive the pins out the side. Also the Pro-Ams grip is not as meaty around the sear pin (as it need not be becuase its metal) thus to fit a Pro-lite frame on a Pro-Am (done to reduce weight) or a Pro-Carbine/68 Carbine frame on a Pro-Am, The Pro-Ams body needs to be milled just slightely. Still no pictures yet, been busy as of late. I think I'll just put together a Tippmann "pro" series Identification chart/parts interchange list. (providing I have the time)

09-06-2006, 04:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
Al Ray GWC Lifetime Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado Posts: 2,314	Oh the Pro-Am grip also uses pull pins rather than the 10/32 allen bolts. IIRC the pro-lite uses inserts where as later Pro series markers were tapped. Will check on that.