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[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally Posted by Mr. Furious

OK, I know folks here aren't much into the Agg electro's but Eclipse makes some great stuff. They do mill their frames super thin and strength is compromised but they are designed to bend to absorb the impact and retain the ASA and tank so you don't have any unguided missles from a bad dive. Would you rather have the gun stay solid and break the bottle reg off at the neck or have the frame bend and absorb the energy? There are plenty of pictures of Dye Ultralight and regular Shocker frames that look just as bad or worse.

Here's the difference though: If you do that to an Ego, Planet Eclipse will give you a new frame, new board and a new any other part you destroyed in the dive for free. Try that with a Dye or SP gun and ask for new parts for free and you'll still be hearing the shrieks of laughter after you hang up the phone.

Planet Eclipse charges a lot for their guns but they take really good care of the folks who use them.

Yeah. I guess that is a bonus point.

[Mstrtal]

Ill stick with my older guns =)

[Mr. Furious]

Originally Posted by Cunha

Though I honestly doubt that they designed the frame as a weak point for dives like that. It is just a side effect of a maximum lightweight frame.

According to Jack Wood they know the frames are going to bend in a bad dive so they chose where they would bend to keep the whole unit together and prevent any seperation of the bottle from the gun. It's just like crumple zones that they put on cars that absorb impact so the vehicle occupants don't have to. If you look at all the pictures of bent Ego's(there are plenty) you'll see that they almost all look exactly the same in the way they bent and the shape they wound up in after the fact.

[Cunha]

I dont know Jack Wood - but I will take your word for it. I understand the concept, I just figured it was luck. They may have first found them bending and realized they could choose where they bend by how they design the frame.

They should make them so the board survives a smash up like that, that would be cool. Ship the guns with several frames.

[Harbinger[TG]]

I don't care if the planned it or not, still aint worth 1600 bux

[Tohri]

This Is why I leave plenty of meat on my custom jobs, Alluminum can only take so much.

...And besides, I really thought that EGO's getting bent up and deformed was a tall tale, an exaggeration, that They Could get bent, or snapped, but.... Damn.

[hockeytown]

Or they could design it so it doesn't bend.

[Cunha]

They are saying that the bending is to keep crucial things like the tank reg from breaking off.

Though I think a better thing to protect would be the barrel threading in the body, no one seems to have mentioned that, though it is protected by the destroyable frame.

Tanks are pretty invincible and it would be ALOT easier to design the rail of the bottomline setup to be a fail point instead of the whole trigger frame. =/

And Eclipse advertises that their proprietary rail setup is the most durable. I think their thinking is backwards if they actually did choose to make the trigger frame bendable.

I wouldnt call them crappy for having a trigger frame that bends under heavy stress. Its an easy to make sacrifice for weight savings.

[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally Posted by Cunha

They are saying that the bending is to keep crucial things like the tank reg from breaking off.

Though I think a better thing to protect would be the barrel threading in the body, no one seems to have mentioned that, though it is protected by the destroyable frame.

Tanks are pretty invincible and it would be ALOT easier to design the rail of the bottomline setup to be a fail point instead of the whole trigger frame. =/

And Eclipse advertises that their proprietary rail setup is the most durable. I think their thinking is backwards if they actually did choose to make the trigger frame bendable.

I wouldnt call them crappy for having a trigger frame that bends under heavy stress. Its an easy to make sacrifice for weight savings.

Personally, I think the "it was designed that way" is total hooey

[hockeytown]

Maybe I am missing something, but it seems all this could be avoided by leaving more meat on the frame.