"Crack shooting"

drg · 06-20-2008, 12:31 AM

Can anyone explain to me the problem with so-called "crack shooting"?

EDIT: Why do some rulesets outlaw it?

jwigum · 06-20-2008, 12:38 AM

None.

If you can see it, you can shoot it. The one time I was sore about getting shot through a hole, I went and patched it up between games(you couldn't see the hole, as it was hidden by grass).

Some people make field rules about it. I think that's an asinine thing to do, but rules are rules. I personally think it would be very difficult to tell if you'd been hit through a crack or hole. The other issue is that such a rule prevents any risk or penalty for looking through such cracks and holes.

Phantom Power · 06-20-2008, 12:40 AM

Do you mean shooting through cracks in a bunker ? If so, it's mostly because it's a case of blind firing where the shooter can't clearly see what he's shooting at. Also, it's fairly cheap in that the people being fired upon have almost no way to hit the shooter back. Most fields also don't like it since it wrecks the bunkers and potentially the barrels of their rental markers depending on the material the bunker is made of.

All in all, it's just a bad thing.

drg · 06-20-2008, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom Power

Do you mean shooting through cracks in a bunker ? If so, it's mostly because it's a case of blind firing where the shooter can't clearly see what he's shooting at. Also, it's fairly cheap in that the people being fired upon have almost no way to hit the shooter back. Most fields also don't like it since it wrecks the bunkers and potentially the barrels of their rental markers depending on the material the bunker is made of.

All in all, it's just a bad thing.

Uh, I don't know about you but I can see a target just fine through a crack, both shooting out of it or into it.

Why would it wreck a bunker any more than shooting at the edge of the bunker where a player pokes his head out?

Why would it damage a marker's barrel?

why would it be cheap? If I catch someone looking the other way and put one into his back, he also cannot shoot back at me. Presenting the target less of a shot than the shot you have is the essence of good play. That's not cheap, that's smart.

Orpackrat · 06-20-2008, 12:50 AM

This was a nice big crack that a paintball got through for an elimination:

He got it from the slot on the left.

weekendballer · 06-20-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drg

Uh, I don't know about you but I can see a target just fine through a crack, both shooting out of it or into it.
obviously not all cracks are the same size, some your not going to be able to shoot and look out of at the same time.

Why would it wreck a bunker any more than shooting at the edge of the bunker where a player pokes his head out?

Because if its allowed some idiots are going to force the barrels in between boards other stuff to get a shot off.

Why would it damage a marker's barrel?

See above, this would be especially true of people with rentals because they are tearing up someone else gun.

why would it be cheap? If I catch someone looking the other way and put one into his back, he also cannot shoot back at me. Presenting the target less of a shot than the shot you have is the essence of good play. That's not cheap, that's smart.
In the situation you present it might not be cheap in your eyes, but if someones back is to you why not pop out and shoot them?

Overall it much easier for fields just to disallow it all together.

Rossco · 06-20-2008, 01:01 AM

Meh. Some fields disallow, most out here don't.

After many years in the sport, I firmly believe that if you can see the target and see where you're 'gun's shooting, it's not blind firing...and therefore okay. Fields should be very clear on the rules and should brief each exception in this case.

In a similar vein, how about paintball arcing / longball artillery? I've yet to see a field disallow shooting over intervening obstacles if the target is on the field.

Rossco · 06-20-2008, 01:04 AM

...and hey, how 'bout that feeling you get when they feel invulnerable and you nail 'em through a tiny opening? We're talking Paintgasm.

RatFink · 06-20-2008, 01:06 AM

The only issue I have ever had with the "rule" is when it is and isn't allowed. I play on a good number of different fields and the rules are always different. I either get in trouble, or eliminated by someone shooting through a knot hole. I wish there was a standard accepted base set of rules everyone plays by.

drg · 06-20-2008, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weekendballer

Originally Posted by drg View Post
1. obviously not all cracks are the same size, some your not going to be able to shoot and look out of at the same time.

2. Because if its allowed some idiots are going to force the barrels in between boards other stuff to get a shot off.

3. See above, this would be especially true of people with rentals because they are tearing up someone else gun.

4. In the situation you present it might not be cheap in your eyes, but if someones back is to you why not pop out and shoot them?.

1. Most cracks can at least be seen into ... and as far as I know "crack shooting" refers more to shooting INTO rather than out of a crack, since usually, if you can't see that good out of a crack with the gun in it, you won't use it.

2. & 3. Then why not ban cramming the barrel into things? Why eliminate the *shooting* through cracks?

4. I am talking about just that. If you catch a guy looking the other way, he also cannot shoot you back. What's bad about that?

06-20-2008, 12:31 AM	#1 (permalink)
drg Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,361	"Crack shooting" Can anyone explain to me the problem with so-called "crack shooting"? EDIT: Why do some rulesets outlaw it? Last edited by drg; 06-20-2008 at 12:42 AM.

06-20-2008, 12:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
Phantom Power Pump Gun Dealer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pender Island, BC Posts: 1,902	Do you mean shooting through cracks in a bunker ? If so, it's mostly because it's a case of blind firing where the shooter can't clearly see what he's shooting at. Also, it's fairly cheap in that the people being fired upon have almost no way to hit the shooter back. Most fields also don't like it since it wrecks the bunkers and potentially the barrels of their rental markers depending on the material the bunker is made of. All in all, it's just a bad thing. __________________

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

06-20-2008, 12:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
jwigum MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 349	None. If you can see it, you can shoot it. The one time I was sore about getting shot through a hole, I went and patched it up between games(you couldn't see the hole, as it was hidden by grass). Some people make field rules about it. I think that's an asinine thing to do, but rules are rules. I personally think it would be very difficult to tell if you'd been hit through a crack or hole. The other issue is that such a rule prevents any risk or penalty for looking through such cracks and holes.

06-20-2008, 12:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Orpackrat MCB Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156	This was a nice big crack that a paintball got through for an elimination: He got it from the slot on the left.

06-20-2008, 01:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rossco Rec Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 46	Meh. Some fields disallow, most out here don't. After many years in the sport, I firmly believe that if you can see the target and see where you're 'gun's shooting, it's not blind firing...and therefore okay. Fields should be very clear on the rules and should brief each exception in this case. In a similar vein, how about paintball arcing / longball artillery? I've yet to see a field disallow shooting over intervening obstacles if the target is on the field.

06-20-2008, 01:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rossco Rec Poster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 46	...and hey, how 'bout that feeling you get when they feel invulnerable and you nail 'em through a tiny opening? We're talking Paintgasm.