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[Rickfactor2]

I really like the people that call dibs on an item and then never follow through. If its my sale thread, I will say when the item is no longer available.

Hate that.

[himurax13]

I feel you brother. I have sold a bunch of stuff as of late. In order to facilitate my sales I have always just said my prices include paypal and shipping costs to avoid all of those headaches. I always expect to get lowballed, but when some jackass is offering half of what I am selling it for, that is just downright rude. My personal fave however are people who ask you to part something that has been blatently marked with a "Will not Part" disclaimer and yet I still get several PM's of "Will you part out item x?" C'mon, if I wanted the item sold individually, I would have sold it as such. Most of the time parting that item out would make the rest of the items in the package worthless. I am sure I have plenty more, but this is all I could think of right now.

As far as dibs go, I figure the person who waves money in my face first gets the item. If another buyer offers me more money during the sale, I will naturally sell to them. Life is tough, deal with it.

[redthirst]

Most of that stuff doesn't bother me (except maybe the "PM me your lowest price" to which I reply "no"), especially the requests for pics or information... I don't throw hundreds of dollars away on a whim and I don't expect anyone else to either. What does piss me off is people who message me saying they'll take it and then when I send payment info I never hear from them again. It's not such a problem here, but whenever I list on PbN, I usually "sell" the same item about six times before I'm actually paid by someone.

[ThePixelGuru]

Originally Posted by Mayvik

But at least if they are PM'ing you they are easily ignored/berated, if they post in your thread it almost gives the expectation to other lowballers and illiterati that despite what it actually SAYS in your post, they can post whatever they feel like.

That's why I include a disclaimer that says I'll mock you regardless of your offer if you post it in my thread. That way I don't have to take any posted offer seriously, so people don't keep clogging up my thread with lowballs. The "PM offers, don't post" (bold, caps and red, I don't get how people still miss it) and "the only dibs I accept is cash in hand" are the only two rules I ever seem to need.

"PM me your lowest price" doesn't bother me. If they ask that for an item that's $100 obo, I just PM them back and say $100 obo. I've had some really funny "who's on first" style PM discussions because of that. Well, funny to me, at least.

[Moosepatrol]

I don't understand the problem. Whenever I have bought an item from someone here I even go the extent to let them know I am in Canada because of shipping costs. I just purchased an item here and asked specifically if the price posted was good to Canada as well. I never haggle over the price. I just keep looking for what I want closer to the price I want. Do I overpay, maybe, but the people I deal with will remember the transaction, how well it went and according to Karma, good things will come back to me.

[Mayvik]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Agreed. Most peopel will offer slightly less, even if you don't have obo in your ad. So someone asking if you will go down slightly (by having you pay for the shipping) is not that unreasonable in my opinion. You can always say no.

I like to adhere to a general rule of thumb that anything more than 10% below asking price on a marker is a "lowball" and probably insulting. So $10/100, or $50/500. Obviously this assumes that the asking price is ballpark in the first place, but if someone is selling a stock M98 for $400, they're probably not someone I want to do business with anyway. Depending on what I'm selling, I'll also factor this in (i.e. if someone offers me 10% below what my posted price is, I'll probably take it unless my asking price is already low or it's a trival item under $50 or so bucks).

[pillage]

Originally Posted by Mayvik

But at least if they are PM'ing you they are easily ignored/berated, if they post in your thread it almost gives the expectation to other lowballers and illiterati that despite what it actually SAYS in your post, they can post whatever they feel like.

I would rather haggle via pm, as I feel a little common decency goes a long way. The posts that just say," Pm me your best price", are just laziness at best. If I want to buy something, I always send a pm or email for any offers I make.

[pillage]

Originally Posted by Moosepatrol

I don't understand the problem. Whenever I have bought an item from someone here I even go the extent to let them know I am in Canada because of shipping costs. I just purchased an item here and asked specifically if the price posted was good to Canada as well. I never haggle over the price. I just keep looking for what I want closer to the price I want. Do I overpay, maybe, but the people I deal with will remember the transaction, how well it went and according to Karma, good things will come back to me.

I have had some of your respective countrymen try to pull a fast one before on shipping items up there. I always list stuff in my sale threads stating that I don't mind shipping out of the country, but the buyer will pay the difference in shipping. I think that it is fair. I hate getting replies saying I have to ship something up to Canada or elsewhere for the same price that I list as shipped stateside. Too me if a potential buyer is not willing to pay the shipping for what they want, they don't want it, and I am not into supplementing someone else's shipping costs.

[Harbinger[TG]]

I think I am going to offer everyone $20. If they really have to sell their space gun and say OBO and I my $20 offer is the only offer, therefore the best offer they should have to sell it to me for $20.

[Fluff]

Cool, Harb. I have a stock cocker 3way. Just offer