Paintball

[Painthappy]

If he's still there.... Can you ask him: Why the extremely complex design?

[THE-SHOOTIST]

Dan was not the designer, but he did all the machining on all the design revisions. The designer had his father make them in Florida, they were then shipped back to The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, where the revisions were done. There is some link to Paintball Heaven in Bridgewater MA, now P&L Paintball Bridgewater. They were the distributors, and the designer had some relationship with them.

[Captainneeda]

Originally Posted by THE-SHOOTIST

"The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts"

Hey, we the residents of the Commonwealth of Taxachusetts resent your assertion.

And yes, i love uncyclopedia.org too...

[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally Posted by THE-SHOOTIST

There is some link to Paintball Heaven in Bridgewater MA

Paintball Heaven did all the finishing work, as well as the distribution and sales. They had an "in house" machine shop.

The gun, for all its technology, still had a dangerous spiking problem which led it to be banned at a number of fields. Because of this, the deal soured between Paintball Heaven, and Eric Scott. The Pneonix basically ended there.

Paintball Heaven then took Pneonix design, and made there own knock off- The Falcon. It was basically a direct-fed version of the Pheonix, using the same firing and regulation system on the Pheonix. Paintball Heaven ended up selling off the design to Crosman, which adapted it into the Equalizer. Eric was furious, and sued everyone, as the gun was patented.

Paintball Heaven, I'm told, later also sold the design to CMI, which developed it into the LS2000.

Eric is like so many brilliant men in paintball- Genius, but often erratic and illusive.

[THE-SHOOTIST]

The LS 2000 was never released was it? I was a good friend of Thunderpig, and after he passed I knew his children kept CMI going for a few years, I remember seeing a pic of an LS in APG, but never saw the gun firsthand.
Dan just left, but I know how to contact him for further brain-picking.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Originally Posted by THE-SHOOTIST

The LS 2000 was never released was it?

No. After CMI advertised it, Eric quickly gave him a "Cease and Decist", and it never went to market. Though I've heard that a few were floating around. Both a "high end" and Low end" version.

However, CMI did fight Eric over the R-2000 regulator.
The R-2000 was a very good inline regulator, based on the Sheridan RG-1.

The RG-1 was one of the designs Crosman bought from Paintball Heaven that was adapter from the Falcon, and stolen from the original Pheonix.

Eric wasnt able to get CMI to stop making the regs since, by then, enough regs were on the market that it was hard to leverage a patent for such an obvious, and common item. Plus, CMI was actually able to get there own reg patented, via the LS2000, which was an effective enough legal protection.

[Robertsr]

I saw both the CMI guns for sale retail. Some of them got out there.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Sorta puts the LS2000 in the territory of the Cyber9K

[Azzy]

Originally Posted by HP_Lovecraft

The R-2000 was a very good inline regulator, based on the Sheridan RG-1.

In what alternat reality was this? Pressure variations in the 100's of PSI are normal, as are the 2 second recharge rate.

You can theoretically get 30 balls per minute from one of them... The pheonix is 10x better.

[HP_Lovecraft]

Well, "good" in so far as I've never owned a regulator, and never will own a regulator on any gun. So, its all relative to me.