How'd the Crossman 3357 operate?

Rudisill · 11-14-2006, 06:22 PM

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2653/

Thats a link to the pistol I'm talking about. As you can see, the paintballs are held in the revolver thing. I think that having a pistol like that would be awesome, especially the intimidation factor. That and I like how they incorporated the paintball magazine into the gun rather then having a big spring fed clip on top of the gun.

So my question is, how the internals work? What sort of valve/bolt system did it use? Did it even use a bolt at all? I just can't see how the paintballs were loaded from the back of the gun. An animation would be great if there was one.

Edit:

There also happens to be several of them on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Crosman-3357-50-...QQcmdZViewItem

Robertsr · 11-14-2006, 06:50 PM

Fairly poorly.

Even with the ingenious feed system, 50 caliber paint is not well suited to this kind of game.

The 3357 has much more in common with your average pellet pistol valve-wise than with your average paintball gun. I'm not even really sure I could explain it well. We have a couple of aficionados here though, so I'm sure someone could put it better than I.

paintballssting · 11-14-2006, 07:16 PM

Im no expert here, but I do have one of those "cool" paintball markers. Function wise, its your standard 357 pellet gun that has a newer barrel assembly and loader attached to it. I have some pics of mine for you to see:

As you can see its pretty basic in design. Accuracy wise, i'd say its about the same as the PGP. Intimidation wise, f***ing awesome. You should see the looks on the faces from the kids with the electros when you haul this badboy outta your gun case

Oh yes, one more thing.....50 cal paint hurts way more than 68 cal paint does. If your gonna shoot your opponent go for mask shots or gun shots....trust me

Christian Nelson · 11-14-2006, 07:27 PM

The newer .50 stuff isn't too bad actually, I've used the little semi ones that use the .50 cal paint (forgot the name at the moment) and they are actually pretty acurate.

Shmavis uses these, and seems to like them alot, maybe ask him?

Rudisill · 11-14-2006, 09:15 PM

Thanks for the information guys. I think I might just have to buy one.

Uranus · 11-14-2006, 11:18 PM

What kind of paint do you guys use. I've tried 2 different kinds, they both blow up in the chamber.

thanks
Chris Sorry for th HiJack

paintballssting · 11-15-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Uranus

What kind of paint do you guys use. I've tried 2 different kinds, they both blow up in the chamber.

thanks
Chris Sorry for th HiJack

I had the same problem with mine as well. I discovered that the cylinder wasn't rotating all the way, so I was inevitably chopping at least one ball. I think Crosman makes a replacement part to fix the problem.

quick.spyder · 01-04-2007, 07:02 PM

I know you said it works like a pellet gun, but I couldn't find any info anywhere on how a pellet guns works. I'm really interested in how it works.

komodo · 01-04-2007, 08:57 PM

What's the going rate on these nowaday's for a nice, working one? Ive been eyeing one for god knows how long, and Im hitting a mid-paintball life crisis where I am just starting to play again, and want all the fun stuff I can.

I remembered there being an over abundance this past summer/fall, and a metric buttload showing up all over EBay and the likes.

Anyone willing to sell for cheap?

And to keep this thread related...I do remember having a .gif of a working one somewhere...maybe on my old HD...

I say scour some other sites, like SCP, Paintmagazine, or AOG. I know there are older gun enthusiasts there, and since the old MCB had that .gif...those would be your best bet to find it.

Emerald Wolf · 01-04-2007, 09:05 PM

I'll have to hurry up and post the pix I took when I had mine apart. Essentially they work like a real revolver. The hammer or the trigger operates a "hand" that rotates the cylinder until it engages the cylinder lock. The 3357 departs from a real revolver after that. The valve is directly in front of the hammer, fed by a small tube from the 12g in the grip. The 3357 valve is nifty, but a little small for paintballs. The valve is somewhat similar to a PGP valve, except that it vents forward. It has a unique valve stem and seat that allows this.

The main grouch I've always heard about them is they chop paint. Well, this aside from issues from the .50 cal paint. The cylinder is made out of plastic; over time the little spurs on the back that the hand catches on to rotate it wear out. I've not had this problem, mine just leaks.

You can convert a Crosman 357 to a 3357 by changing the barrel and cylinder, but you have to relieve the frame near the hinge or the cylinders don't fit well. (Mine is a conversion.) Talk more to Shmavis, he's rebarreled a couple and done some other customizing.

Hope that helps...

Catchya on the Flip Side.....

Emerald Wolf -- likes his okay....

11-14-2006, 06:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	How'd the Crossman 3357 operate? http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/2653/ Thats a link to the pistol I'm talking about. As you can see, the paintballs are held in the revolver thing. I think that having a pistol like that would be awesome, especially the intimidation factor. That and I like how they incorporated the paintball magazine into the gun rather then having a big spring fed clip on top of the gun. So my question is, how the internals work? What sort of valve/bolt system did it use? Did it even use a bolt at all? I just can't see how the paintballs were loaded from the back of the gun. An animation would be great if there was one. Edit: There also happens to be several of them on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Crosman-3357-50-...QQcmdZViewItem

11-14-2006, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robertsr Ultimate Battle Monkey Z Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA	Fairly poorly. Even with the ingenious feed system, 50 caliber paint is not well suited to this kind of game. The 3357 has much more in common with your average pellet pistol valve-wise than with your average paintball gun. I'm not even really sure I could explain it well. We have a couple of aficionados here though, so I'm sure someone could put it better than I. __________________ Geriatrically Assured Destruction

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11-14-2006, 07:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
paintballssting Rec Poster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Port McNeill BC Canada	Im no expert here, but I do have one of those "cool" paintball markers. Function wise, its your standard 357 pellet gun that has a newer barrel assembly and loader attached to it. I have some pics of mine for you to see: As you can see its pretty basic in design. Accuracy wise, i'd say its about the same as the PGP. Intimidation wise, f***ing awesome. You should see the looks on the faces from the kids with the electros when you haul this badboy outta your gun case Oh yes, one more thing.....50 cal paint hurts way more than 68 cal paint does. If your gonna shoot your opponent go for mask shots or gun shots....trust me

11-14-2006, 07:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Christian Nelson MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wisconsin	The newer .50 stuff isn't too bad actually, I've used the little semi ones that use the .50 cal paint (forgot the name at the moment) and they are actually pretty acurate. Shmavis uses these, and seems to like them alot, maybe ask him?

11-14-2006, 09:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rudisill Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Thanks for the information guys. I think I might just have to buy one.

01-04-2007, 07:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
quick.spyder Active Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Greenville, NC	I know you said it works like a pellet gun, but I couldn't find any info anywhere on how a pellet guns works. I'm really interested in how it works.

01-04-2007, 09:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
Emerald Wolf Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denver, Colo.	I'll have to hurry up and post the pix I took when I had mine apart. Essentially they work like a real revolver. The hammer or the trigger operates a "hand" that rotates the cylinder until it engages the cylinder lock. The 3357 departs from a real revolver after that. The valve is directly in front of the hammer, fed by a small tube from the 12g in the grip. The 3357 valve is nifty, but a little small for paintballs. The valve is somewhat similar to a PGP valve, except that it vents forward. It has a unique valve stem and seat that allows this. The main grouch I've always heard about them is they chop paint. Well, this aside from issues from the .50 cal paint. The cylinder is made out of plastic; over time the little spurs on the back that the hand catches on to rotate it wear out. I've not had this problem, mine just leaks. You can convert a Crosman 357 to a 3357 by changing the barrel and cylinder, but you have to relieve the frame near the hinge or the cylinders don't fit well. (Mine is a conversion.) Talk more to Shmavis, he's rebarreled a couple and done some other customizing. Hope that helps... Catchya on the Flip Side..... Emerald Wolf -- likes his okay....