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Old 04-23-2009, 04:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Isn't this interesting. I've never seen this before, but am supremely interested in knowing more about this. I've actually been working on a design that has to be somewhat similar to this for about a year and a half.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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These came awfully close to market. I had the I&I catalouge that included these back in the day and recall contemplating trying to order one.
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Old 04-23-2009, 04:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The story I've heard is that he built the system, had a small run of prototypes, and ran into some issues with the rotary breach. That coupled with the fact that the Nelson valve train can't sustain very many rounds a second led him to shelve the project. Since there were faster firing markers on the market already, and he was running into some issues, he just didn't feel comfortable going ahead with production.

I had just never heard about any being sold to the public.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Well, I have posted my account on here somewhere else... and yes I did hold this gun...and I pulled the trigger, but it wasn't aired up. When he shot it, he aired it up with a 12ie and no paint at his booth, then he degassed it and took off the breech and cycled it. I don't know about any microphone but the bolt cycles without air.

There is no bolt. The breech rotates to the side to close off the chamber then the ball is fired with air, nothing but air pushes the ball. The breech is run by a little electric drive motor, and there is a microphone that hears the air starting to be released by the valve and rotates the breech closed. Trust me theres a microphone in there.......
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Saw it last weekend...it exists. Cool design that was way ahead of it's time.
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Old 04-23-2009, 06:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Why did people doubt it existed until this past weekend? Pictures have been around for ages, it has been relatively well documented, and Mike at CCI seems to be entirely open about it...

It IS awesome though, either way.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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There is no bolt. The breech rotates to the side to close off the chamber then the ball is fired with air, nothing but air pushes the ball. The breech is run by a little electric drive motor, and there is a microphone that hears the air starting to be released by the valve and rotates the breech closed. Trust me theres a microphone in there.......
Sounds allot like the Epic. Wonder if there are any distinctions between the two... Or foul play. I expect the latter, since Mike got ripped of by a couple of Brits. Nothing against those derby wearing fine gents though.
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Old 04-23-2009, 07:56 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There is no bolt. The breech rotates to the side to close off the chamber then the ball is fired with air, nothing but air pushes the ball. The breech is run by a little electric drive motor, and there is a microphone that hears the air starting to be released by the valve and rotates the breech closed. Trust me theres a microphone in there.......
Well, I call it a bolt because that's what Mike calls it. I guess breech might be more appropriate, but then you would get mixed up with what Mike calls breeches, which would be more appropriately called receivers. In any case, there is a rotating cylinder that seals off the chamber for firing. What I don't understand is why there is a mic in there and if there is then why did the bolt cycle with it not gassed up?
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Sounds allot like the Epic. Wonder if there are any distinctions between the two... Or foul play. I expect the latter, since Mike got ripped of by a couple of Brits. Nothing against those derby wearing fine gents though.
Yeah, I though about the epic when I first saw it from the outside and all I could see was the bolt sealing off the breech through the powerfeed, but they are really only common in that they don't use a bolt but instead something else to seal the breech. The revolution's bolt is electronically actuated, the Epic's trapdoor is pneumatic. Also, when the epic is resting the trapdoor is open and when the Revolution is at rest the bolt is in the closed position.
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Sounds allot like the Epic. Wonder if there are any distinctions between the two... Or foul play. I expect the latter, since Mike got ripped of by a couple of Brits. Nothing against those derby wearing fine gents though.
Being that I just got an Epic, I feel qualified to say nope, not at all. No electronics in the Epic, and aside from the trigger and a couple of pistons, the trap door is the only moving part, so no rotating breech. Haven't torn into the guts yet as I'm taking it to Castle and don't want to anger Velcor, but I'm intrigued to see how the regulator and mechanism looks inside the frame as I've only ever seen cartoon animations.
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