Paintball

[Listessa]

I'd love to bring a small EMP device to any sort of tournament.
LOW TECH!

[wolf13]

Originally Posted by Tugboater203

So the new "ups" will be proxy servers,firewalls,and higher data transfer rates?

What they should do is add a built in tourney device that measures BPS and FPS and automatically shuts down your marker for a minute or two every time it breaks the rules.

Tug

It'll just be hacked and overriden, or will be manufatured with built in backdoors that will be freely avialble to sponsered teams, there buddies and everyone else. Frankly, I am suprised its taken this long, we brainstormed this idea years ago. The cold hard reality is that many people consider rules to apply to everyone EXCEPT them, and any measures taken to restrict them will be avoided, cheated or backdoored as long as there is ANY possibility to do so. With manufacturers like SP, they will blatently disregard any rule or agreement put into place on technology they manufacture. short of going back to mechs or issuing "approved" guns (ie, guns are provided by the tournamnet and are only allowed in layers possession on the field), Don't expect anything to change. The idea of imposing stiffer penalties may seem good, but in reality, when have there ever been lasting consequences for teams that consistantly cheat? They can talk about getting tougher, but it will never be enforced.

[BlindeSeher]

Originally Posted by Painthappy

Pre and post inspections of the guns may have to be mandatory... This is done in other technological sports such as NASCAR (which I know extremely little about) but I know they CAN look and tear your car apart if needed.

The truth is, new leagues will form that will not allow these types of markers, or require "stock" boards only. People will gravitate to those leagues, and these other ones that allow the cheating, or don't do enough to stop it, will die...

Or at least that is my prediction and/or hope.

Inspections aren't required already? I had assumed that they would be.

You certainly won't find me in any league where such a scenario would even be possible. IMHO, the first time I run up against a team of DM6's with pubescent males attached to them is the time I put on my walking boots and high tail it. But that's just me, eh?

[Railgun]

Unless you totally jam the entire spectrum (which is illegal by the way) over the whole paintball field there will be a way to get the signals into the markers. Encryption would ensure that you can't break into the gun's board and sabotage the other team. Spread spectrum also would make it hard to block any single frequency or small band of frequencies without a large mega power jamming RF "noise" transmission. Such a device would also affect the audiences' cell phones or other devices which would make the organizers very unpopular.

Supplying markers on site would be one option but then you'd have them all complaining about how the "crappy" markers made them loose. And then there's sponsor supplied guns that need to be used by the sponsored teams. Nope, that won't work.

BUT.... what about a tourney supplied chrono sleeve that each player has to use. It would record bps and velocity and if these go over spec by a set amount the collar would signal the sideline refs and they could call the player for the infraction. Or better yet, at the end of the match just disqualify the team if any of the members ramps over or shoots too fast. THAT would cut out the cheating quickly enough.

The point is that there's ways to cancel the cheating but if the league organizers don't want to do it badly enough then it won't happen.

And like some of you I strongly suspect that all this techno cheating and ramping in general will give rise to at least local grass roots "no battery" events. If that happens I'd be up for some of dat.

Who knows, we've already got pump speedball, who's to say that a no battery class wouldn't find a faithful following and exist at the national tourney level along with the full electro class? Most forms of mechanical based competition have this sort of limited classes already and it works out just fine.

[Surestick]

I think the easiest way to avoid this type of cheating would be to install a radar/BPS counter on each marker before the game starts (Something small that would clip onto the barrel near the muzzle) that would transmit to officials the max BPS a player reaches & the velocity of each shot.
The only downside is the extra cost this would entail for tournament promoters.

[paintballwannab]

Originally Posted by Listessa

I'd love to bring a small EMP device to any sort of tournament.
LOW TECH!

Hmmm wonder how mad people would get it i did that to a local field. lol

Good idea except even with my mech. markers I still need a motorized loader. =[

Or just slow down my rate of fire.

[Tugboater203]

Originally Posted by Surestick

I think the easiest way to avoid this type of cheating would be to install a radar/BPS counter on each marker before the game starts (Something small that would clip onto the barrel near the muzzle) that would transmit to officials the max BPS a player reaches & the velocity of each shot.
The only downside is the extra cost this would entail for tournament promoters.

That's more what I had in mind rather than a device make by the marker manufacturer. It would look a lot like the chrono on Carter's Cyber-9000.

Tug

[Surestick]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surestick
I think the easiest way to avoid this type of cheating would be to install a radar/BPS counter on each marker before the game starts (Something small that would clip onto the barrel near the muzzle) that would transmit to officials the max BPS a player reaches & the velocity of each shot.
The only downside is the extra cost this would entail for tournament promoters.

That's more what I had in mind rather than a device make by the marker manufacturer. It would look a lot like the chrono on Carter's Cyber-9000.

Tug

Of course it doesn't stop anybody from wiping.

[Z50]

All they would need to do is change the paintball netting to a Ferriday Cage, if they painted it black no one would know the difference except those who were cheating and it would be funny to see them try to figure out "Why my hax don't work?"

[d4rksabre]

i knew there was a reason i didnt like electros...