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Old 10-20-2009, 08:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Graf, I have a deathstix (1st gen) and the only issue I have with it is its lack of sizers. It is very easy to clean, and shoots very well. I also have a older stiffi, (not switch) and it is s very nice barrel as well. My issues with it are the lack of sizers (easily remedied by a switch set), and the outer barrel is a little rough. Not smooth like the deadlywinds or deathstix. I have used deadlywinds, and they too are very nice. Quiet, tough, and accurate.
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Old 10-20-2009, 08:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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..EDIT: BB, how was the Sly? Did the conical bore seem to make a difference?
I currently own bears old sly kit.

conical bore: I love my sly for playing in the rain.. It is the only barrel i've ever had that didn't go to hell in a hand basket once wet.

Shoot through breaks? I dont think so... marketing BS

But for regular play the sly kit is pretty average, but inefficient as hell. I drop 25+ fps compared to new kaners - and that is enough to damn near have to respring my junk.. and that ain't happening.
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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...Wow...

I think the Sly is the most expensive barrel on the market right now, too.

Thanks, Thumper. The efficiency thing relates to sound signature, and I've been driving myself to quieter tools of mass destruction.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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IIRC the problem with swabbing carbon fiber came from the earliest CF barrels that had fairly large vent holes drilled in them, and that the fibers from the swab would catch there. The current CF barrels on the market all have smaller vent holes and so this isn't an issue.
With the exception of the Deadly winds, all other regular CF barrels have stated that using anything but a straight rubber squeegee will damage and void the barrels warranty. Deadly wind has some kind of proprietary design that allows it to use cloth or rubber squeegees. The mofo is aluminum lined. Unless something has changed Stiffi and Sly both still require rubber ones.
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's the teflon coating on the internal diameter. Very thick teflon coating. Protects the inside of the carbon fiber.

Here's what I was told about the early CF barrels by a sales rep from stiffi. The early barrels had to be squeegeed with rubber only because the fiber would grab loose strands of cf around the ports and unravel it. That was only with early iterations of CF barrels. The machining process used to involve boring the barrels to size. Modern barrels are molded to size, or otherwise sealed internally, so that unraveling isn't an issue.

Of course, even knowing that, I would double-check with the company that you're purchasing a product from. Barrels are expensive!
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I did not care for the sly all that much. I liked the DW on my ego alot, but did not like it on my pump. And still waiting on the mofo kit to get here....
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With the exception of the Deadly winds, all other regular CF barrels have stated that using anything but a straight rubber squeegee will damage and void the barrels warranty. Deadly wind has some kind of proprietary design that allows it to use cloth or rubber squeegees. The mofo is aluminum lined. Unless something has changed Stiffi and Sly both still require rubber ones.
I had asked this same question in this thread and got the response below. Posts 41 and 42.

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From what I understand it was just the first run, original stiffi barrels. This is all I could find on it right now. I had been asking about this awhile back trying to figure out the real deal and that seemed to be the answer.

SITE Inc. Stiffi Barrel | Paintball Review | pbreview.com

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"Up until last year we did not allow battle swabs or any fluffy type swabs to be used in our barrels. It used to void the warranty. We did some research and found that is not that big of an issue and lifted the ban. When we first started making our barrels we drilled the porting different and the fluffy swabs used to catch and delaminate the barrel on occasion. We have since changed our porting process and it just took a while to convince upper management that it would not hurt the barrel. So the rumors were true until this year. The Redz swab is the one we recommend. Pass the word on that it is ok to use a swab now."
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thanks for the new info, wonder if sly has changed there stance as well.
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I have shot little other than snipers for years. I have a switch kit for me, and an SM kit for my loaner/backup. The only complaints I get are from the players I shoot. I can live with that.
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I picked up a MOFO at extravaganza and I am pretty happy with it.
The thing that I really like about it is the sizer that comes with it that matches up with the control bores that you get with it. Makes it easy to size up the paint.
I find that the shorter control bore is "better" IMHO with pumps because i can run the sizer a little tighter then a freak and have less barrel breaks, one thing that did happen a few times with the freak when I would run the sizers on the tighter side.
The deadlywinds barrel isn't bad. Two of the guys I play with regularly love there's on their pumps. My one complaint with it is that they are a PINA to keep the bore looking clean after a while. One of my buddy's barrels looks like the teflon coating is coming off the inside.
I have "borrowed" a stiffi for a while and it was a really nice shooting barrel (we did go for a larger bore)

One to keep your eyes peeled for is the CCM carbon fiber barrel
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