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Old 10-22-2009, 02:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I see your point, it does give a margin of control without having to be too obvious about it... Sometimes having control without looking like it works better. My theory would have to be obvious about it, and is more likely to create hard feelings.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I've always had an idea that's different from the current model, at least around here.

In my area if you bring your own equipment you can bring your own paint. The fields make nothing if the players BYOP. What they usually sell is to renters only.

My thought would be to sell good paint, and several brands, at normal store prices. HOWEVER...give the players a discount the more they buy. I know at least one paintball store that does this and it's so far been a good business model. Once you pass $100 you get 5% off, $300 10% etc. Players could keep track of what they spend with loyalty cards. The discounts would apply to future purchases as well.

Making a field BYOP and also selling paint at equal prices or lower prices than anyone else makes people want to buy paint at your field instead of bringing it with them. You'll make it up on volume. The more you play at the field, the more you shoot, the less it costs.

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That's how our local field operates, $10 entry, $5 extra for BYOP, restrictions on some paint (Monsterballs, etc). He carries several different grades of paint, ranging anywhere from $35/case to $70/case depending on quality. You can also buy by the bag if that's your thing, it'll cost a little extra. He also has the discount program, if you spend over a certain amount you start getting discounts on paint, etc.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Haahahaha since when is having the "reputation" of Skirmish considered a good thing? People tried talking me out of going there 4 years ago, I didn't listen, ...
Not everybody hears about the bad part of the reputation, but everybody does hear about the good part (namely the location, the massive fields). So even though you were being talked out of it... you still went. You may say their reputation is a hindrance but as you've demonstrated it's not enough to stop people from going.

That tells you just how big and influential a place that's long established can be, and how difficult it'll be to go up against a place like that.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:44 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Thats what I mean. Skirmish (and likely some others) get $100 a case because, well its Skirmish. Kinda like Hell's Survivors gets whatever they do now because... well its Hells Survivors.
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Old 10-22-2009, 03:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thats what I mean. Skirmish (and likely some others) get $100 a case because, well its Skirmish. Kinda like Hell's Survivors gets whatever they do now because... well its Hells Survivors.
And if Skirmish started charging $40/case, would it still attract teh same amount of people? I don't know (I could speculate), but I can guarantee you the type of customer they get would change.
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actually it wouldn't change much. You cant use Skirmish as an example, the daily bread and butter is utilization of an existing weekend home/tourist region directly within driving distance from NYC, and preestablished as a place to go. It is also interconnected with rafting activities, making it a 'single time, single day' stop for tourists to play that paintball game once. the same clueless toursits would spend money regularly. Why ask them for less? perhaps you will get more of them maybe.

it would perhaps change really big games for more seasoned players in a down economy and get some other people in that normally would skip or play a bit more often.

This is a bad field for any comparison, since it is one of the oldest and largest in the world, and I sure wish my family bought that ice cream stand in the 80 first! (a few might get this one).

if anyone is in a tourist area with heavy weekend use near what you'd start to call a megalopolis, congrats and you, much like Paul, have very little to worry about besides the economy bumping numbers around a bit.

that place can be full of win for location location location, if you moved it to somewhere dinky and also beautiful like Floyd VA, it would die quickly.
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Could a new field make it at $100 a case? Yes. Would I play at it? Yes.

Horizon has said it all already.
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I think the hardest part is to get the customers in the first place.
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I think the hardest part is to get the customers in the first place.
That's difficult with any new business though.

I think the first year we only had about 1800 players the whole year, if I remember right. Most new paintball fields cannot support a full time owner/manager for quite a number of years. I know ours couldn't.

There is not enough money in paintball to have extensive advertising campaigns. Paintball popularity really is spread by word of mouth mostly.
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If I was interested in running something like this idea the first thing I would do is NOT sell paint by the case. At all. Ever. There would be no "$100 a case" listing anywhere on the field, or web site. Paint would be $25 a bag, $5 a 100 (I miss re-bagging the old 2500 round cases). If someone asked for "a case" I'd have to tell them "Sorry, don't have any".

This is pretty much the point of the whole idea. If you don't want people shooting a whole case per day of play, don't sell them one.
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