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Old 11-04-2009, 01:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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My brothers each got one for christmas.
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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They were bought by K2, who also owned BE, Viewloader, and JT.

I suspect you are trying to imply that BE is a bad company? yet probobly use a VL hopper and JT mask?

Regardless, I DO NOT think it is sad. Bud Orr figured out that the market for cockers was gone. It started to collapse when the WDP Angel came out, but by 2001-2, it simply could not compete.

People will argue, but cockers were overpriced, and overcomplex. All things being equal, you could get far better guns for a fraction of the price. All that kept WGP going was the closed-bolt and low-pressure myths, and by 2001, nobody believed them anymore.

So it was very smart for him to sell. By the time K2 took over, the market for cockers was completely gone. They ended up liquidating everything, and no longer produce autococking guns. Eventually, the entire company was liquidated as well, and only exists as a name to slap on chinese imports.

Not sad. Bud Orr was pretty smart to see where the market was moving
Amen. The only autocockers I like are pre-tuned electros or pumps. Anything else is just crazy talk for me.
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Amen. The only autocockers I like are pre-tuned electros or pumps. Anything else is just crazy talk for me.
I'm not quite sure where personal preference falls into that but to each his own. I personally like autocockers but I wasn't ever overly impressed with WGP factory products. Way too many custom shops made much nicer guns and products. I'm sure WGP got a cut one way or another (if nothing else, just on the blank bodies) but still...

In the end I think what ultimately killed WGP was the lack of diversity and innovation. I guess it was easier for them to cash in vs. trying to keep up.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:08 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm not quite sure where personal preference falls into that but to each his own.
It's been a long day, and long days mean I say things that don't make sense.

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I personally like autocockers but I wasn't ever overly impressed with WGP factory products.
If only all stuff came with the quality of CCM or the likes...
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