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Old 11-05-2009, 05:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So.. all you smart people - .50 first strike rounds?

Hypothetically speaking if we attached some form of a tail to a 50 round we should be able to give ourselves a bit more room to work with and thus a bit more mass without causing an increase in the frontal area.

Would a first strike round benefit from being smaller? We have shown where current 50s are around 1.2 - could we get to 1.5 or so with the tail? Would this then overcome at least the range issues of the 50 vs 68 and then allow similar or better range then the 68 first strike?

Not to rekindle the 50 debate, just a curiosity question...
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, it would make the first strokes cheaper thus more appealing. but then again, electro space guns ruined the sport and making a round readily that double accuracy and range for a very cheap price. That's almost at the level of a 15 bps ramp.
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The First Strike is expensive because of the process behind making it, not the actual material used.
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A scaled down FS round wouldn't be ideal. They already have half the paint than a normal ball. Now a .50 cal ball has 40% of the paint of a .68. So a .50 FS round of identical design to a .68 FS round would have like 20% of the paint of a normal .68 cal ball. That would pretty much classify it as "pure suck". (the math probably doesn't work out quite that well, I just got home from work and my brain needs to rest before tackling geometry)

A redesign could improve this, say make the FS round a full sphere with a tail, instead of the current half sphere. This might get it up closer to that 1.5 grams, but we'd have to figure out the density of the tail to find out for sure.

Of course if you abandon all backwards compatibility, you can get an elongated round that could be near the weight of a .68 cal ball, but have the aerodynamic profile of a .50. A First Strike Macho Fire basically. Though concentrating the impact at such a mass at such a small point may cause it's own problems.
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The First Strike is expensive because of the process behind making it, not the actual material used.
both actually its shell is injection molded polystyrene so they have to pay off molds they had made
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Though concentrating the impact at such a mass at such a small point may cause it's own problems.
Yep. Better energy retention of the FS AND more concentrated impact force (or whatever it's called, I'm tired) means cracked lenses.
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a 50 cal FS that weighs as much as a standard 68 would be even better. making one weight that much is going to be an issue though, cause whatever you add to the fill has to be cheap, heavy and soluble
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You could always make them longer...
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