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Old 12-12-2006, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK folks, I am ready to take orders for custom E/X Mag grip panels. I am going to do this two ways. First, I am going to make sets from wood that I have and sell at one price, sorta like store stock. And second, I will charge a flat rate to make a set for you and you supply the wood. The store stock wood will change from time to time, just depends on what I get, and I am always looking for good stuff. I will update this post as my stock changes.

There are a coupla things that you need to know.

FIRST , these are wood grips, and they are not indestructable. If you get to ambitious with tightning the screw, then you will eventually crush the wood and that screw will not hold anymore. I will provide mounting screws with all the grips that I sell. They are a bit longer than the stock screw and allow me to have more wood under the screw head. But, I will only do Hardwoods and the South American stuff is reall hard and dense. So you would really have to work hard a crushing out the screw holes.

SECOND . I have no intention of applying stain or finish to these grips. The reason that I dont want to do this is that there are so many different stains and finishes out there. The right stain will drastically change the look of the wood. The store stock grips will have either a clear Teak Oil or I will use Danish Oil in Dark Walnut. These two soak into the wood and seal it up. I will apply either of these two to your grips if you specifically ask me to. Varnish, stain, or Poly is something that you need to decide for yourself. But, the grips will be ready to accept any stain or finish that you decide.

THIRD . There are two styles of grip panels for the Emag. First is a flat panel, sorta like the stock Emag panel. It will be 1/4 inch or less thick. If you look at it from the side, it will look sorta like this: [
The other style is one that has a curved shape, kind of like a 45 grip panel and, when seen from the side, will look sorta like this: ( The style that you choose is important because the thickness of the wood that is needed is different for both. The Flat style can be done with any wood that is from 1/4 to 5/16 thick. The curved style needs to be 5/16 to 3/8 thick. 1/2 inch will work, but there is a lot of wood that would have to be removed to get it down to a managable size. But, If you have large hands, and like a large grip, then the 1/2 inch size will fit the bill. I can also make a regular 45 frame grip panel and I am still thinking about making a panel for the 90 deg frame, altho I havent decided on that yet. The 90 deg panel is a bit complex and would be difficult to sand properly. Will let you know on this later. The 45 grip panel is readily available just about every where you can buy gun parts, and there are many custom grip makers out there. But, if you want one, I can do it. PM me for pricing

FOR E/X MAG PANELS
Any wood that you provide me MUST be a min. of 5 1/4 inches long X 2 1/4 wide.
These are the minimum dimensions that I can work, and there is very little leeway with this size. Bigger is better, and will give me the ability to utilize the best possible grain structure that the wood has.

Choosing wood . I will try to do any hardwood that you send me. But, be aware that there are some woods that do not co-operate with you. Burl and Birdseye wood can be difficult to get smooth and can chip very easy. Do a little research and try to learn a bit about the wood that you are looking at. Most times, you can Google a wood and find out if it is a good cantidate for a grip frame. Also, some of the Spalted wood sold on Ebay is an end cut. Think of the end of a 2x4. All the wood fibers is on the short side, the thickness of the piece. This will make a poor choice for a grip panel. There will be very little strength to the wood and will break very easy. If you buy a ready cut grip set on Ebay, look to see which way the grain of the wood is going. Just make sure that the grain is NOT going on the shortest measurement of the wood. I.E., 5 1/4 x 2 1/2 x 3/8. The grain shoud be either going in the direction of the 5 1/4 or the 2 1/2, not the 3/8. I will try to post pics that better explain this later. Also, there are exotic, burled woods that have been "stabilized" or "placticized" These woods have been pressure injected with a plastic to keep the wood from cracking or chipping. This stuff is very tough to work and really eats up a sand belt. If you are going to send me one of these, I have to limit the thickness to 3/8 thick. 5/16 works better in this stuff cuz I wont spend all night just trying to get it down to a workable thickness. Stabul is one brand name that does this kind of wood. But, the wood that you can get is just incredible to look at and is truly one of a kind.


PRICING:

YOU PROVIDE THE WOOD:
Flat panel: 28$, includes shipping(US shipped) and grip panel screws (wood size min. 5 1/4 X 2 1/4 X 3/16 to 1/4)
Curved panel: 28$, includes shipping and grip panel screws (wood size min. 5 1/4 X 2 1/4 X 5/16 to 3/8)
I cannot ship these to Canada for this price. If you are in canada, then the price will be slightly higher. You will only be charged the actual difference in shipping.

STORE STOCK PANELS
Flat panel: 28$, includes shipping and grip panel screws + price of wood
Curved panel: 28$, includes shipping and grip panel screws + price of wood
If you are in canada, then the price will be slightly higher. You will only be charged the actual difference in shipping.


Stock wood will be very reasonable, about 5$ to 7$ per set


STOCK WOOD:
Heartwood. This wood is very red and if from Central America. 1/4 in and 1/2 availible. Lots of this wood availible

American Walnut. You guys know what this is. 5/16 Also, lots of this availible

American Cherry. 5/16 9 sets availible

Granadillo (Yucatan Penninsula, Mexico) Brown with dark grain. 1/4


Exotic Wood:
Prices vary, contact me for prices.

Zebrawood. From Africa and this stuff is very nice. 5/16 and have several sets.

Purpleheart. From Central America. Very purple and will take a high shine. 5/16 and have several sets availible


Figured Black Walnut. This stuff will finish out just beautiful. 1/4 in. 6 sets

Brazilian Rosewood. This stuff I bought for me a set on my Xmag. Will have two sets availible. 5/16 3 sets availible

Mexican Bocote. A hardwood that is Yellow with Black random grain in it. Just insane the way that it looks. 5/16 several sets availible.

African Mohogany. This wood is very dense and is a creamy color with little black specks. 1/4 in. 4 sets availible

African Black Ebony. Jet black, dense and hard. 3/8 1 set availible

Cocobolo (Mexico). Different shades of Orange with Black streaks 3/8

Ribbon Mohogany, Africa. This a golden shaded wood, with what looks like waves in the grain, irredecent sheen to it. Very pretty. Pics up soon.

Kingwood. Dark Brown and Black grain. Lots of contrast and great grain.

Canarywood. This wood has a sorta rainbow of colors across it. Distinct lines and contrast.

SOON TO HAVE:


Please post in this thread what you want, then Email me an order. That way, we can both keep things less confused.

When emailing and order, please do the following.

Subject line should read: WoodGrips.
Tell me what you want, in what wood, or when you are going to ship the wood to me. It would also help if you specified if you have large or smallish hands. This helps me kinda know how much wood to leave on the curved grip panels. Also, please include your Online name, i.e. "kruger", and the paypal address that you paid, or will pay from. Also a return adress to mail it to you, even if you ship your wood to me. That way, I do have a record of your adress to return your panels to you. If I havent received an Email from you, then you dont have an order in.

Paypal adress: foureds@comcast.net
Email adress: foureds@comcast.net

Will also accept US POSTAL MONEY ORDER.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here are some examples of the type of wood that is availible. Please note that these are just examples of the wood, and are here just to kinda show you what different kinds of woods look like. Some of these are early attempts and are flowed in some way or another. Others are finished and have been sold. Also, I am not a photographer, and it shows. True colors are not well represented in these pics. I will update this post as the inventory changes.

This one is called Morado, a wood from South America. It is an example of a finished product.

This is called Kingwood, also from South America. This one is not for sale. It was my first attempt and is flawed.


This one is called Heartwood, from Central America. This set has had no stain or seal on it. It is raw sanded wood. It is an example of a finished product. Very Red color naturally. With a seal, this color will get a deeper red.


This one is called Ambrosia Maple, from the USA. This one has only one flaw, the mounting screw is a bit off center.




This one is called Red Mallee burl, from Australia. This is an example of the "stabilized" or "plasticized" wood.


Ebony grips. Black and smooth, almost feels like plastic.

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Old 12-12-2006, 07:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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All of these grips are of finished products and are either for sale, or have been sold. These are mainly just examples of how the wood looks as a finished grip.

Cocobolo grips


Cocobolo grips


Leopardwood


Mexican Bocote


Zebrawood


Maple wood


Ribbon Mohogany. Brown and Golden. These grips just glow golden in the light. Its almost irredecent the way that they look. And, as always, I cant get it to show up on the camera.
The top set has the grain running horizontal, and the bottom set has the grain running vertical.


Canarywood. This is a golden wood with streaks of brown and red in it. And, as usual, I cant get it to show up with my massive photographic skills.



This is called Prima Vera, sometimes known as White Mohogany. It has a grain structure that looks almost irredecent. Very nice.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The above pics are just examples of the kinds of woods that you can get. And, as you will notice, they are all for the E/Xmags. I am working on other types of panels, but they are slow to gin up. Right now, I am working on the 90 deg vert. panels, the Angel style, and will have them availible very soon. I can also do the 45 panels and most variations of those. But, there are literaly hundreds of folks that already do the 45 frame grips. I can do them, if you want, but I am not concentrating on them. Just a heads up for you guys.




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Here is the first attempt at a vertical grip panel. It was done on a belt sander and it shows. I have a spindle sander on the way, so the quality should come up greatly on the finish of these. The wood is Honduran Rosewood. These panels are going to be more labor intensive to make, therefore, they will cost a bit more.



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I got the set of "Red Mallee burl" and they are AMAZING!
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ho-lee cow! those are extremely appealing to the eye. wowza!
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Now that is some beautiful wood!

Can't wait to see what you come with in the future.


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Thanks, I am trying. I am starting to branch out into other grips. Slowly, but wanna get it right.
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