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Old 02-20-2012, 07:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Sten gun possibly with some kind of chain feed mag system using some kind of rack (like rack and pinion steering) On the side of the bolt to keep up with an insane fire rate?
Some sort of remaining of the smg 68 would be great! Perhaps one that runs on hpa?
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If I didn't play pump I wouldn't play, simple as that.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:04 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I'm not saying you have to change your shotgun style dukie but kel-tec makes an interesting design for the ksg. Dual tubes below the barrel [more paint ] and the action at the rear for the 12ies. It would make an interesting design concept.



Or maybe instead of a whole new marker, shroud kits? to get that aggressive look, Like this revolver from killzone.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:11 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I didn't say it would be. I simply said making a full-on rifle would be too much like CCM is doing. I said I liked the idea of a Phantom FS/mag feed exactly because it WAS different enough from CCM's idea where I feel it's perfectly fair game.

Jeez CJ, read the post more carefully next time


Edit- The only thing I'm thinking is it may require a custom bolt as well, since most purpose built FS markers have a distinct taper to the bolt so that it pushes the flat in the midsection of the round instead of pushing on the fins themselves. I'd like to see it feed from the bottom too as I would imagine it would be less prone to jamming that way but you obviously couldn't retain the stock phantom pump arm arrangement that way.
If i were to go with it I would eliminate the pump arm on the bottom. Doesn't mean it couldn't use a phantom pump, just the arm wouldn't be on the bottom.

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Break-action shotgun. I would buy that instantly no matter the cost!!!
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- Break Action Over Under Shotgun
- Bolt Action... DSG I guess would be the best platform.
See above
I'm think in a dsg would look silly as a bolt action. The bolt is way too far forward.


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It would be a lot easier to make a FS mag fed pump with a bore drop Nelson instead of the Phantom.

But something with dukie's new frame and a TPX mag up front would be pretty cool.
There are ways around it with a phantom bolt. A bore drop would be nicer from the chambering point of view though. That's just leaves the tracer as a possibility though. I may make a trip to the local store tommorow to try something with a tracer.

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Sten gun possibly with some kind of chain feed mag system using some kind of rack (like rack and pinion steering) On the side of the bolt to keep up with an insane fire rate?
An insane rate of fire means either an absurdly long chain or an extremely short duration of fire. Closely followed with a long reloading time. A steady relatively quick rate of fire would be better.

I haven't given up on my chain feed idea though.

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Some sort of remaining of the smg 68 would be great! Perhaps one that rs on hpa?
Noooooo. No remanufacturing of ancient out of production parts. What happens if one goes south?


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http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/ksg.jpg

I'm not saying you have to change your shotgun style dukie but kel-tec makes an interesting design for the ksg. Dual tubes below the barrel [more paint ] and the action at the rear for the 12ies. It would make an interesting design concept.

http://images.wikia.com/killzone/ima...4_Revolver.jpg

Or maybe instead of a whole new marker, shroud kits? to get that aggressive look, Like this revolver from killzone.
If you can't hit them with 20, how does an extra twenty help lol.

There aren't enough drv's out there to make shroud kits feasible. Its completely doable but I think would end up being unrealistically priced due to small numbers.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:46 PM   #54 (permalink)
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something like this based of the havoc design perhaps, a tank as a stock(kinda like the T9.1's. Wouldnt have to hold 6 nerfs


some sort of uzi or mac11 type of marker would be cool but in 68cal. the mag wouldnt have to hold 30 or anything. Hell using the existing Tiberius extended mags would be cool just something super compact but with full auto capabilities.


The smg from halo would be cool too..or something similar. Maybe like a 20rd spring feed on the side.
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So is that a no on the mag-fed ion/aura body kit? It could be made of delrin to save money/weight, and the tubular design could easily integrate a suppressor(which wouldn't work on its own, since the body would close one of the ends).
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On the smg idea I typed that on my iPad earlier and it autocorrected it badly. What I meant to say was a re-imagining of the smg68. Something in the same style but original in its own right. No using old parts etc.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:10 PM   #57 (permalink)
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something like this based of the havoc design perhaps, a tank as a stock(kinda like the T9.1's. Wouldnt have to hold 6 nerfs
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/...f408Larger.jpg

some sort of uzi or mac11 type of marker would be cool but in 68cal. the mag wouldnt have to hold 30 or anything. Hell using the existing Tiberius extended mags would be cool just something super compact but with full auto capabilities.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/im...2ArBfp9AXcHmyo
The smg from halo would be cool too..or something similar. Maybe like a 20rd spring feed on the side.
The launcher was what I was talking about earlier marrying a havoc valve to an airsoft revolving launcher.

The second one is just plain old funny looking so no lol.

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So is that a no on the mag-fed ion/aura body kit? It could be made of delrin to save money/weight, and the tubular design could easily integrate a suppressor(which wouldn't work on its own, since the body would close one of the ends).
I might do something ion based in the future just because they are cheap as dirt, easy to get and so modular.

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On the smg idea I typed that on my iPad earlier and it autocorrected it badly. What I meant to say was a re-imagining of the smg68. Something in the same style but original in its own right. No using old parts etc.
But belt fed! Or maybe may fed, I dunno.
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Old 02-21-2012, 12:00 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Bold action fs phantom whatever... just name your price :P
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for the sten gun I was imagining smallish mags sticking out of the side like on a sten gun but with the balls being forced down the mag by a follower on a chain that gets pulled down the mag by some kind of ratchet powered by the action of the bolt, to reload take the mag out, drag the follower back to the end of the mag and pour more paint in. Was trying to imagine a system that didn't use a spring so you could have a decent capacity without putting too much pressure on the stack when it's full.

Or a 10 round stack of balls spring fed but with a second lot of ten in a tube next to it with a hole between the two at the end of the mag like on agents smiths blow back pistols, then when the first ten are fired pull back the spring, shake the second lot into the mag, maybe with some kind of feed gate to refill the reserve mag up.

EDIT - been thinking about this for a couple of hours - realised the the idea above ignores a small thing called gravity so started to think of otherways to acheive it and ended up reinventing the 40 round rapide magazines!

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