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Old 01-19-2013, 08:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Yes, it was.
Phew! Was sure I'd seen one of the frames mated to a mag.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Dye ran away from this design because of all the returns. And they specifically said they "ran away". Not only was the full auto an issue, the macro line fittings were crappy, and on occasion a piece of plastic would break off and the frame would no longer stay attached. It had a plethora of small issues and Dye didn't want to surround their name with that kind of maintenance nightmare.

This is also why Dye went to steal braided hoses on the 2011 rail, and why they simplified the bolt system in those markers to make them more reliable than the previous rails. In their words they wanted to be known for "reliability".
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think it was the issues, but those could have been worked out, the major issue was what has happened to the term "mid range"

the lower end of the mid range has dipped below 200, and some of these markers like the e1 and some of Gog/SPs offerings are EP. The SLG just didn't have a market niche. If the quality was impossible to attain because the nature of a sear tripper is wrecked orings and random full auto (ask kinsman). And they can't offer it cheap enough to justify the problems or annoying sear tripping nature.

For UNDER 200 NEW you can get
GOG enmey (quality, slower, bullet proof, can become EP)
DP E1 (some quality issues, but EP)
GOG Envy (decent quality, EP, LP)
Ions (EP)

For 200-250
DP G4 (some issues, but way better performer, more potential)
Used Mini (nuff said)
2011 PMR (way better marker with true DYE quality)

then 250-300 becomes
Valken Proton
ULed PMR
Invert Mini
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NEW DP g5


So for the SAME price as the SLG there are several EP offerings with far fewer quality issues then the sear tripping SLG. I imagine Proto's profit margin was so slim they could not cut the price further.

The people the SLG appealed too (those looking for Proto's classic quality and a lower price) are more likely to throw the extra cash on a PMR or buy used higher ends. DP kinda does the SLG better, a marker with some quality issues but a lower price point and functionality of a higher end. THe DPs have similar price points, some issues with leaks, ect, but a MUCH higher end shot when they are working. just imo
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That makes a lot of sense about the market. I think you're probably on point.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I'd say if you liked the SLG the PMR would be a logical marker to look at.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd say if you liked the SLG the PMR would be a logical marker to look at.
I actually nabbed a G3SE that I like. I do still like the SLG, kinda sad to see them go because I always liked how they felt when they shot - felt kinda automaggy.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Good choice as well!

I think those are the marker that truly did it in lol!

The new gog Enemy feels REALLY automaggy when you fire, very similar style marker actually. and cheap.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I just picked up an 09 slg ul for under 100 the guy said it wasn't working It took a total of five minutes to get it going he had the reg adjusted all the way closed I now have two nice shooting slg ule's with no problems
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It's def any easy marker to get running. Also a pretty solid shooting marker. . It will break orings, and it will take 5mins to fix. Doesn't mean proto was making any $$$ of it. I imagine they were not.
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every slg ive worked on had a stuck bolt ie you shoot and the bolt jams forward never to move again, we just end up sending the marker back to dye
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