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Old 01-11-2007, 10:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dye Phantom Barrel

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Phantom-Bar...QQcmdZViewItem

Is it really worth almost the cost of a phantom?
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hope so. The phantom I recently bought used came with one.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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whats so special about it other then it's not made anymore? i've found that most companies surprisingly have the tendency to NOT randomly stop making things that make them lots of money just some some punks can turn around and make a mint off them later because they're "Limited Edition"

oddly enough they seem more interested in making the profit for themselves
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thats not a boomstick, its an ultralite... and didn't Dye start making ultralites again for the phantom? with the newer body threads?
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Woo! Im going to sell mine, suddenly that buyer's remorse just faded. hehe.

Oh whats this about phantoms changing threads? Mine was an OLD phantom.
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Old 01-12-2007, 12:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Phantom's never changed their threads, but a lot of barrel manufacturers made barrels with the wrong threads. The threads on a lot of the DYE Phantom barrels are pointy in profile (a regular 60 degree pitch) instead of the proper ACME stub profile.
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Phantom's never changed their threads, but a lot of barrel manufacturers made barrels with the wrong threads. The threads on a lot of the DYE Phantom barrels are pointy in profile (a regular 60 degree pitch) instead of the proper ACME stub profile.
i thought the new phantom bodies could take the pointed threaded barrels? otherwise what would be the point of making the barrels?
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The newer bodies have slightly different threads. All proper phantom threaded barrels should fit old and new, but dye barrels have a tendency to only fit old phantom bodies.

This is neither a dye boomstick, or an ultralight... both of those are two piece barrels, even when glued they are still made of two peices. This is a one piece barrel, and is typically called a dye aluminum, differentiating it from the earlier dye stainless barrels.

I have one of these barrels for my phantom. It shoots straight and super quiet, though I pretty much always have to use detent rings with it. It is way quieter than the stock phantom barrels, and I think it looks nicer... my opinion.

I bought my phantom (VSC 45 frame, extra body, extra stock barrel, extra valve body and the dye aluminum) for $225. If these barrels are going for $100+, then my estimation of the deal I got has gone up.


EDIT: btw, I've heard that Mike of CCI can take these dye barrels and make them fit newer phantom bodies as well.
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Old 01-13-2007, 01:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I've got one of these on my Phantom (bought new a few months ago) and have had no problems. I bought mine from WWA for 40 bucks or something like that when he was getting rid of the last of his stock. Too bad I'll never give her up, looks like I could make quite a bit of cash.
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:47 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I gave a pretty penny for my first, then I ended up with 6 of them. I love them. Shot alot better than the phantom boomsticks I have had. And IT IS the quietest barrel I have ever put on my phantom. But the older greenish grey J&J ceramic was pretty dang close, if not almost identical. With the exception of the dye holding a tighter patter.

But I never had to use detent rings. Well in all honesty I dont think they work.

Ok so now the auction. Is it worth it. I would give that much for another one if I couldnt find one. I can grab 3 and not spend anymore than $60. For $80 I am getting a dye stainless which is actually rarer from what I have heard.

But my personal opinion is that those are the best phantoms barrels.
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