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Old 05-29-2013, 12:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The end of Gelatin Paintballs

The thought occurred to me this morning on my way in to the shop.

Could we be seeing the last days of gelatin paintballs?

If First Strike is accepted by the powers to be then why not paintballs made from the same material? I know Perfect Circle already does this but not on a scale to supply the industry.And they cater to a specific industry.

The benefits would be phenomenal. Perfect round paintballs with a controlled skin. All the same size all the time.No heat or cold issues,no storage issues,won't go bad. All the issues that plague gelatin would go away.

Even the gun issues with gelatin would go away. You could use stiffer springs in the magazines.You could leave magazines loaded for a longer time.

It would offer better gun designs that would function better.

The skin could be designed to be more frangible,bio-degradable and so on.

And to manufacture such a product the system is already in place.The cost would be minimal compared to paintball making machines.

This would also allow more companies to be involved in developing a superior product.

This could even go into the realm of almost real style bullet design.Which would lead into a more reliable gun design.

These ideas could still fit within the safety specifications and rules regarding product safety.

Think of the issues that you yourself have with gelatin paintballs.

That's just my thoughts. I'm ready to move forward.
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Eh I doubt it.... PMI / RP shearer tried this back in 2003 with the celulouse shells.... they shot amazing and would not swell from humidity. I think I still have some...... great stuff.

But man did it add to the cost.

I think it was called advantage shell.
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Eh I doubt it.... PMI / RP shearer tried this back in 2003 with the celulouse shells.... they shot amazing and would not swell from humidity. I think I still have some...... great stuff.

But man did it add to the cost.

I think it was called advantage shell.

I read some old reviews people loved them or hated them.

Are the ones you have left still good?
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Weren't several of the Brass Eagle brands some sort of polymer shell? I'm thinking Blue Streak and something "Tiger".
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I have shot the Rap4 golf ball rounds and the practice pepper ball rounds and they both were pretty wild. The dust cloud they make is pretty neat though.
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I doubt the shift would happen before the shells were changed to a more rapidly degrading material.
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I think the more important factor to changing paintball shell formula would be the running out of PEG, since the demise of the film industry.
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The thought occurred to me this morning on my way in to the shop.

Could we be seeing the last days of gelatin paintballs?

If First Strike is accepted by the powers to be then why not paintballs made from the same material? I know Perfect Circle already does this but not on a scale to supply the industry.And they cater to a specific industry.

The benefits would be phenomenal. Perfect round paintballs with a controlled skin. All the same size all the time.No heat or cold issues,no storage issues,won't go bad. All the issues that plague gelatin would go away.

Even the gun issues with gelatin would go away. You could use stiffer springs in the magazines.You could leave magazines loaded for a longer time.

It would offer better gun designs that would function better.

The skin could be designed to be more frangible,bio-degradable and so on.

And to manufacture such a product the system is already in place.The cost would be minimal compared to paintball making machines.

This would also allow more companies to be involved in developing a superior product.

This could even go into the realm of almost real style bullet design.Which would lead into a more reliable gun design.

These ideas could still fit within the safety specifications and rules regarding product safety.

Think of the issues that you yourself have with gelatin paintballs.

That's just my thoughts. I'm ready to move forward.
I for one would like to see the end of gelatin balls. The problem with the perfect circle round is that it doesn't perform significantly better ballistically. This is why it failed before. It would solve all of the problems you mention though. Maybe now that most people (at least I'd like to think 'most') understand the limitations of a spherical projectile, they'd be willing to adopt one that has all the features you mention at a higher price.

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Eh I doubt it.... PMI / RP shearer tried this back in 2003 with the celulouse shells.... they shot amazing and would not swell from humidity. I think I still have some...... great stuff.

But man did it add to the cost.

I think it was called advantage shell.
If you look at RPS packaging, They market the paint as being patented under "RPS Advantage". Here's JT Advantage, and the description refers to the "RPS Advantage" process. If I remember correctly, it applies to the drying process used by RPS to ensure minimal seam size and maximum roundness for gelatin shells.

I never heard of any other materials tried for a mainstream paint shell. Is there any information published about this?
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Id be for it. I would have much less an issue with fpo if would stock good paint or learn how to care for their paint. If the paint didnt degrade and was much lower maintenance then id be less hesitant to purchase field paint. Im sorry but fields need to stop stocking marballizer

Fields are already gouging prices on paint as it. Might as well pay more for better paint
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