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Old 07-02-2013, 12:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If the starter turns over fine, then what good is pushstarting it going to be?


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Old 07-02-2013, 12:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I edited my last post, car started after unplugging and plugging back in the ignition coil, but it seems to lose power for a second randomly while driving and the start up is rough.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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If the starter turns over fine, then what good is pushstarting it going to be?
Starter motors don't typically crank at very high speeds. They don't need to. An engine in good working order usually needs only a nudge to get going. But in this particular case, when the ignition system is worn and moisture is present, the starter will not be able to generate sufficient speed to get the engine started, while a push/bump start (either down a fair grade or with another car) will. The engine will splutter and protest, but it will get going and will then clear up and run smoothly.

(Failure to start in this case would indicate that something else is likely the problem.)

Moreover, when things dry out, the engine will generally start just fine, which can often disguise the problem. However, as the system becomes more and more worn, with more carbon tracks building up in the cap, and the plugs getting more and more worn, and wires becoming cracked, etc., the engine will be more and more difficult to coax to life, even in dry weather. And of course, since it is a system, all of this compounds, and then on top of everything this puts extra load on the coil.

So from the sound of it, a tune up is likely needed.

How many miles on the engine? And how long since the last tune up?
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Car has 155k on it, but it's been pretty well cared for by the previous owner. I don't know when the last tuneup was, I've only had it for a couple months.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Just keep an eye on it.

If all works fine when things dry up, and gets funky in wet, and keeps getting worse, so that even if it sprinkles or you get fog and it won't start, then a tune up is what she needs.

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:02 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I replaced the dist cap, rotor and ignition coil today and the car ran great.
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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time to put a supply of spares in a box in the back of the car
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Probably a good idea to keep a spare rotor. It's cheapy plastic and I broke the first one. The dist cap feels looser than the old one too.
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Starter motors don't typically crank at very high speeds. They don't need to. An engine in good working order usually needs only a nudge to get going. But in this particular case, when the ignition system is worn and moisture is present, the starter will not be able to generate sufficient speed to get the engine started, while a push/bump start (either down a fair grade or with another car) will. The engine will splutter and protest, but it will get going and will then clear up and run smoothly.

(Failure to start in this case would indicate that something else is likely the problem.)

Moreover, when things dry out, the engine will generally start just fine, which can often disguise the problem. However, as the system becomes more and more worn, with more carbon tracks building up in the cap, and the plugs getting more and more worn, and wires becoming cracked, etc., the engine will be more and more difficult to coax to life, even in dry weather. And of course, since it is a system, all of this compounds, and then on top of everything this puts extra load on the coil.

So from the sound of it, a tune up is likely needed.

How many miles on the engine? And how long since the last tune up?
Gotcha, thanks for explaining.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:42 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Having trouble with the brakes on it now. The pedal gets really soft and wont brake until the very end. I'm waiting on a replacement master cylinder to come in.
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