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Old 07-10-2013, 04:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So, diesel isnt really worth it? Fair enough. I thought about imporitng a chopped Hilux surf, but my concern is parts. So if I do a motor swap, Id be better off getting another 3.4? (I think thats what my Runner has)
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
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for motor swaps, its easiest to stay within the same make, i.e. Toyota gas to diesel than Toyota motor to a Cummins. with that, replacing the bad motor with a newer model is the easiest, since its literally plug and play with some minor differences from updates to the newer motors.

if the existing motor was plenty for you, then by all means, stick with it. if the old motor was lacking and you want something more capable, then go up in cylinders, like a V8 instead of a V6.

look at this. you can get short blocks, long blocks and everything in between. if you are sticking to the same motor, throwing on some bolt ons could be the difference maker in not putting in a diesel, but not putting the same motor that you had before. basically, go bigger or go home.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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So, diesel isnt really worth it?
Not to revitalize a DD. If you wanted to drop $100,000 and build your dream trail rig, it is, but if you want to do it to get an oil-burning DD, it's a waste of time and money.

Swapping a dead V6 for a new V8 from the same model is one thing, since both were made to exist in the same space, but swapping different engines is a whole different animal.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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It's not even remotely as bad as you guys are making it sound.
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Old 07-11-2013, 01:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah a Cummins 4bt diesel is fairly easy, as it has very little wiring and such. Its the physical act of bolting it in. Try here for tons of info:

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Not to revitalize a DD. If you wanted to drop $100,000 and build your dream trail rig, it is, but if you want to do it to get an oil-burning DD, it's a waste of time and money.

Swapping a dead V6 for a new V8 from the same model is one thing, since both were made to exist in the same space, but swapping different engines is a whole different animal.
V8's werent made for 97's so, Id presume the engine compartment is too small. Id like more get up and go, honestly,
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It's really easy to put an engine into a vehicle and make it go generally forwards. Truly replacing the factory engine and making it do everything the original one did? That's the trickier part.
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im not saying its easy but its not rocket science either. regular people with regular garages do it all the time.
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Agreed, it's not so much a difficulty thing, as a cost and value effort.

Like I said-if Seymour wanted to turn his 4Runner into a badass oilburning overlander truck, then, hell yeah go for it. But if he's just trying to keep his DD going, just on diesel instead of gas to save some money, then it's not worth the effort.
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